Hi all

I owned both systems : faceware and live face (faceshift) , I prefer faceshift. Without waiting to new characters in CC3, I think that already with Zane, we can make something not to bad. Do not pay attention to my bad accent and bad english :-) I'm french.




     

Impressive demonstration charly ..... 

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thank you for your kind words, I really love live face, ad I think there is more possibilities by editing profils


     

This is great! Movements of the head are sometimes a little stiff ( I would certainly pass it through the graph editor) and there's not enough movements of the eyes for my taste. But it's a fantastic attempt overall. Quite realistic. Congratulations!


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Thanks for sharing your experience with Live Face. Excellent job. 

                                                                

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Very realistic! Great demo!

I wonder if Apple will ever churn out a separated system for the facial capturing: I have an iPhone and makes no sense to me to spend 1K to upgrade to the iPhone X.... except for the facial capturing thing, but then the cost would be too much...

Cheers

  Roberto

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You mean a separate camera and computer system just for facial capture?  Never say never but I can't possibly see how this would make any sense whatsoever for Apple.

Someone on another thread or place (might have been YouTube) said that Faceshift itself either works or could work with other 3D cameras -- I don't remember the exact details because it didn't interest me at all, but essentially they were saying there might be other solutions.  Hell, Kinect has a 3D camera.  The problem is, it's not just Faceshift but RL themselves that would have to be involved and you need to get the right alignment of factors.

For my own part I was wondering if the Faceshift data couldn't somehow be recorded coming off the iPhone and then sent to the RL application (which connects via an IP address).  In that manner you could definitely remote record things (like take your iPhone with you to your actors site, without having to drag a computer and the whole iClone setup).  But -- who knows?

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Mike "ex-genius" Kelley

BTW, I wanted to mention one thing -- I like this demo as well, very much.  I purposely did not involve any body or head animation because I wanted to keep it very basic in my tests just to show the facial stuff, but from this it's clear how much that adds.

But -- some folks are never satisfied.  I've had at least one user on YouTube say how crummy all the stuff I've posted is, not worth a thing.  Now, to be fair, I had the same response from at least one or two here when using Faceware, so some folks are just all sour grapes.  Personally I'm not so sure what people expect.  I can see some limitations but I also am very aware of the limitations in the avatar itself.  I think CC3 will make the facial animation look even better, no matter how it's done.

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I have the same thinking... 




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Yes, you're right about eyes movements, so I increased the eyes sensibility and it's better with my Denzel washingtown avatar. And yes, I really need curve editor to smooth the head movements