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argus1000	argus1000 Posted 8 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: Last Year Posts: 606, Visits: 11.6K	I was happy to purchase Allan M's "iclone 6 fundamentals" when it came out and, now that we're talking about it, I'm going to watch this course again. It's worth it. My latest movie THE GOLDEN MAN, and a few others: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIl1EqVCKitZzLqaNnLK0BA

AutoDidact	AutoDidact Posted 8 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: Last Year Posts: 2.1K, Visits: 13.6K	IMHO There are far too many free knowledge resources online to even consider paying for anything 3D/CG related instruction. However I respect those who offer quality paid instruction. I have a huge library of video tutorials(17 gigabytes) For C4D,Lightwave ,After effects,nexlimit realflow,Endorphin and of course Iclone, going back to the version 5.5 days for me the best way to learn is with real projects with real objectives. I am completely self educated in 3DCG via free online Tutorials As little as three years ago ,I did not even know how to model anything of a complex shape and knew very little about alpha channel based compositing & VFX however with the help of free tuorials on YT, I have managed to liberate myself from a whims of Daz clothing content makers and now create my own custom clothing and other items for my Sci fi base animations. I personally found the reallusion video's By Kai extremely helpful when I migrated from vestigial Poser "pro" to Iclone 5.5 for Character animation. RAG DOLL COLLISION ANIMATIONS FOR ICLONE 8 & 7 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ghost Origins My latest Feature length film created with Iclone. My Sci- Fi Graphic Novel on Amazon: https://a.co/d/9k3cwoY My IMDB listing Anabran Abdhul Quarnain - IMDb

Rogue Anime	Rogue Anime Posted 8 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 3 Years Ago Posts: 548, Visits: 3.4K	argus1000 (12/26/2018) I was happy to purchase Allan M's "iclone 6 fundamentals" when it came out and, now that we're talking about it, I'm going to watch this course again. It's worth it. I agree - I purchased Alan's course for iClone 6. Agreed there are many other sources for the same info, but having it all in one place and with specific breakdowns for reference is awesome, plus Alan has a style that is very warm & user friendly. It only left me with ONE QUESTION: WILL ALAN NOW MAKE ONE FOR iCLONE 7?? Inquiring minds want to know! How about it Alan?:smooooth::cool: ~V~ Val RogueAnanda

animagic	animagic Posted 8 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: Last Week Posts: 15.8K, Visits: 31.4K	Since the OP is just starting out, I recommended checking out the current collection of free tutorials first. I bought Alan's course and I don't regret it, but there are changes in iClone 7 that may not be obvious unless you are familiar with both versions. EDIT: I just noticed that even Alan himself doesn't recommend buying it. Also, free or paid, the most important aspect of training that it is or is kept relevant.

prodos	prodos Posted 8 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 3 Years Ago Posts: 61, Visits: 513	Greetings. Rogue Anime (12/27/2018) ONE QUESTION: WILL ALAN NOW MAKE ONE FOR iCLONE 7?? Inquiring minds want to know! How about it Alan? At THIS comment -- earlier on this thread -- Alan M wrote: My hope is to produce an iClone 7 version which I am negotiating with Reallusion about, so we shall see what 2019 brings. As iClone development zooms along, a comprehensive, professionally put together new course is vital -- now more than ever. I join Rogue Anime -- and many others -- in strongly supporting a new Alan M course. In fact I think it would be ideal if it was a sort of ongoing "subscription" course that was updated every time iClone got updated. The modular format of Alan M's iClone 6 course already lends itself to that approach. Imagine a course that was hardly ever out-of-date! Perhaps lagging no more than a week or two behind each iClone improvement! What a competitive advantage that would give Reallusion! :)

prodos	prodos Posted 8 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 3 Years Ago Posts: 61, Visits: 513	animagic (12/27/2018) ... I just noticed that even Alan himself doesn't recommend buying it. . True. However, I'm currently working my way through Alan M's course and am finding it VERY helpful.

Alan_M	Alan_M Posted 8 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 6 Years Ago Posts: 225, Visits: 2.9K	prodos (12/27/2018) Greetings. As iClone development zooms along, a comprehensive, professionally put together new course is vital -- now more than ever. I join Rogue Anime -- and many others -- in strongly supporting a new Alan M course. In fact I think it would be ideal if it was a sort of ongoing "subscription" course that was updated every time iClone got updated. The modular format of Alan M's iClone 6 course already lends itself to that approach. Imagine a course that was hardly ever out-of-date! Perhaps lagging no more than a week or two behind each iClone improvement! What a competitive advantage that would give Reallusion! :) First off I would like to say a big thank you to all those who have been good enough in this thread to say such positive things about by course and indeed my teaching style. Comments like this very much encourage me to look to push forward with creating another one. Prodos's comment about a course that gets updated is very valid and something I will definitely consider. A lot of people, including some of the Reallusion staff I deal with do not understand how long it takes to create a course like the Fundamenals series, it was in excess of 50 hours and even working with Makin Movies handling all the editorial it took many months to create. During that time iClone 6 did get updated and menu items moved and new ones appeared resulting in an addendum video being generated to cope with that. It is very hard to throw away hours of recorded material and start again. The other thing that a lot of end users do not realise is how long it takes to record the material, a lot of YouTube videos are done on the fly and often leave in fluff and errors, though a lot are also truly excellent. To get a recording of the type that is in the Fundamentals course-ware we have learnt that it takes about one day to get one clean hour of usable recording. I tend to do a lot of pre-planning of the structure and content before actual recording and if I run into one of those outstanding iClone gotchas then I have to go away, find a solution, and then come back and design that into the recording session, the brass bolts on the pub bench being an example. So, the long and the short of it is that it takes many months to create during which time you cannot really work on commercial projects, which means no income. In the case of the last course Makin Movies paid me an advance on the royalties so I was able survive through the creation process. The commitment since the previous course, has been too great for myself to have contemplated a new course of the same volume. However, things have changed for me in my work life and I now find myself in a position were a I can seriously consider producing another course. Unless there are any strong objections I will either point RL at this thread, or cut and past some of the comments about my course and teaching style as this will undoubtedly help me with my negotiations with Reallusion to do another course. Thanks again one and all for your kind comments. Alan M iClone 6 Fundamentals Course

Alan_M	Alan_M Posted 8 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 6 Years Ago Posts: 225, Visits: 2.9K	Just one more thing (A famous quote) I would like to ask of those that have purchased and gone through our course what their opinion is of the first module on the iClone UI. The reason for this is that module was a bone on contention at one point between ourselves and Reallsion. RL felt that no one would pay for a course module just about the UI. Ultimately I belive most people bought the bundled course so it became irrelevant, but at one point they were even considering giving it away. I personnaly feel there is value in knowing where to find things and also what all those menu items and dialogs actually do. What are you thoughts on this? All the best Alan M iClone 6 Fundamentals Course

sonic7	sonic7 Posted 8 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 3 Years Ago Posts: 1.7K, Visits: 19.4K	My biggest regret (with 'hindsight' now gained) is that I didn't "commence" my exposure to iClone two to three years ago with iClone 6 AND your Course (based on what I've heard about it). That would've put me in good stead, maximizing my learning experience, and 'cushioning' the iClone 7 blow - which has changed so much. Anyway, it is what it is .... Alan, I can't speak with experience about your course (I wish I could), but I do agree that the 'interface' is so fundamentally important - that I'd call it a must. What's the point of teaching a person how to be a 'driver' if first they don't learn the car's control's and their function? So you're right in that respect. Personally, I'm hearing you loud and clear regarding the 'time' taken to produce these tutorials. When I used to do professional editing, I used to work on 1 hour per finished production minute, BUT that was just throwing Video, Voice-Over and Music on basic Corporate level docco's in an edit session - at a great rate of knots. The production team had already done countless hours writing and shooting footage etc ... So yes - many hours per finished minute. (only to be eclipsed by 3D animation - lol). The hardest thing for someone like yourself Alan (as you've mentioned) - is trying to lock-in some sort of 'definitive' iClone Version that will remain relevant to the tutorials for as long as possible. I don't envy you - it's like painting a moving sunrise on canvas .... - it just won't keep still - lol. (I just wish there was a way you could insulate yourself from that difficulty). But if your 'teaching style' is anything even vaguely like WarLord's easy manner - I could listen to it all day long. Teaching is an art - and some 'have the gift' - I'm sure you do - otherwise you wouldn't have been a consultant for the BBC, nor an instructor at the London Film Academy School. So I think it would be absolutely terrific if you were to create an iClone-7 course. - I'd buy it .... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please be patient with me ..... I don't always 'get it' the first time 'round - not even the 2nd time! :( - yikes! ... ● MSI GT72VR Laptop, i7 7700HQ 4-Core 3.8 GHz 16GB RAM; Nvidia 1070, 8GB Vram ● iClone-7.93 ● 3DXChange Pipeline 7.81 ● CC-3 Pipeline 3.44 ● Live Face ● HeadShot ● Brekel Pro-Body ● Popcorn FX ● iRAY ● Kinect V2 ● DaVinci Resolve17 ● Mixcraft 8.1

prodos	prodos Posted 8 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 3 Years Ago Posts: 61, Visits: 513	Greetings. Alan_M (12/27/2018) ... I would like to ask of those that have purchased and gone through our course what their opinion is of the first module on the iClone UI. ... I personnaly feel there is value in knowing where to find things and also what all those menu items and dialogs actually do. I've only recently started the course and am currently working my way through the first module. Every single thing I'm learning is valuable & useful. I'm going very slowly because I try out -- and even experiment -- with every feature. If a feature is good enough to design into iClone, isn't it also good enough to learn? These highly talented tech entrepreneurs are innocently oblivious to how some of us non-tech, non-geek types learn. What geeks (bless their hearts) think is "intuitive" -- in other words, not requiring step-by-step instruction -- is nearly always wrong. I have some close friends who are Historians. They can absorb names, dates, places, etc. with incredible thoroughness and accuracy. They're always surprised when others can't do it. Reallusion recently made available their iClone manual in PDF. It's massive & covers everything. Except the text is so faint I can't read it. (I've seen others who have complained about that also.) What does that tell us? For one thing, it tells us that being excellent at one thing (developing outstanding software, for instance) almost guarantees you'll be awful at other things. That's a fact. And, yes, Alan is very right: Knowing where to find things ... by having short, well-explained videos for every, single feature -- focusing just on that one feature (for instance, "the Help menu") -- is extremely helpful as a reference. I sincerely hope that Reallusion will bite the bullet and Unleash The Alan. Let the teacher teach. Is that too much to ask for?

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