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Filmmaking versus Animation By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

Thank you KT - Well, as a talent/producer/director/camera... By Rogue Anime ( 7 Years Ago )

Good topic, KT. Nice addition, Rogue. Filmmaking versus Animation... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]justaviking (1/14/2018)[/b][hr] [quote][b]Rogue Anime... By Rogue Anime ( 7 Years Ago )

Thanks Mike! I have virtually no experience on film or animation but I... By CtrlZ ( 7 Years Ago )

If I may chime in here... I cannot claim to have any education or... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )

I have as many 'failed' scenes and illustrations as I do 'successful'... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )

I first tried 1 or 2x to tell a story with IClone. Also I have no... By Postfrosch ( 7 Years Ago )

I agree about the manageable length. One of my first (using a radio... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )

With writing, if you use 100 words to express a 1000 words, then you... By Walt_R ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]Walt_R (1/14/2018)[/b][hr]With writing, if you use 100 words... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

It takes a lot of commitment and it is very expensive. :P Be warned, I... By 4413Media ( 7 Years Ago )

Great comments and discussion here, all I wanted and more. Let me... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

This is something I want to do but find incredibly difficult.... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

Interesting breaking things up as such. I enjoy forcing myself to do... By kungphu ( 7 Years Ago )

Initially, animation seems like a 'simple way' to tell a story...... By illusionLAB ( 7 Years Ago )

When I was actually making "films" one of the more frustrating things... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

I seem to recall a discussion a while back about "structure" in a... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

Yup! I think Ani mentioned the same thing as well. Structure is good,... By kungphu ( 7 Years Ago )

Good points of view, here. All are good, but I learned long ago that... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )

I like the comment about "fluff": when talking about the length of a... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )

An excellent discussion on all aspects of animation. As far as... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )

Thinking about the title of this thread - "Filmmaking versus... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

Dennis, My idea originally (and perhaps I didn't explain it well) is... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

Sorry Peter, perils of text there. I misread the comment. The... By 4413Media ( 7 Years Ago )

I'm not surprised that there are more 'clips' and tests than actual... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )

@KelleyToons - Thanks for that clarification (as the initiator of this... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

It's sort of like the difference between "do you create eye candy" or... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote] a one man production of an entire story is a daunting task... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

I feel a little guilty for not posting more in the Forum despite... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )

Something in Spiny Norman's post, where he asks, "Does any of this... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

Ridley Scott is always praised for his beautiful camera work. Guess... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )

We in the US are mostly exposed to one or two particularly kinds of... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )

"3d animated Film".... in CGI: The idea is to write an awesome story... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )

Damned you all guys! This thread is so interesting that I almost... By RobertoColombo ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote]Thanks you all: so many useful hints, tips links, and... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )

Good stuff....I'm takin' notes for sure! ;) By mark ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]mark (1/16/2018)[/b][hr]Good stuff....I'm takin' notes for... By colour ( 7 Years Ago )

The Rashomon Effect One of my all time favorite themes is summed up... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

Interesting contributions all round. Thanks, all, I appreciate it.... By SeanMac ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]Kelleytoons (1/18/2018)[/b][hr]The Rashomon Effect One of... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]colour (1/18/2018)[/b][hr] IMO, Film-making is filming the... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )

Thank you all for being so kind about my post. Post’…it was... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )

Thanks for you posts fellow Ausie. Similar with every ones... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

I apologize in advance. This got long (again). Maybe it will help if... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

Great post Dennis. I had forgotten 'Save the Cat'...Yeah! all your... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )

Delema...it is difficult. You're going to want to bring up the volume... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote] A similar, though more studious exercise, is to write down the... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

So what do people think of the "animation" part of this topic? Can you... By Rampa ( 7 Years Ago )

For me the animation part of this topic is not about creating... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

Nothing stops me in my tracks but things can force me into a detour.... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )

What stops me in my tracks? In a word: Me. In five words: The... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

Firstly sorry about my font size, I have been working off my laptop... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )

It's good advice about structure and such, but I have mixed feelings... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )

Animagic...I'm right with you. I had dozens of books on screenwriting... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )

I have been giving myself some deep considering to several things... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

Delema...you're on fire dude! Go for it...Can't wait to see the... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )

Actually, are you familiar with the concept of the 'pitch'. If you can... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )

No internet yesterday so I'm coming a bit late back here. This has... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

Last...I promise...where did Quentin Tarantino work before he became a... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )

I'm sorry Kelleytoons for seemingly hi-jacking your post. All I know... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )

I don't think any of the discussion here has been OT, just a bit... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

Multiple sections again... ;) STRUCTURE AND PLANNING: It's... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]Rampa (1/17/2018)[/b][hr]So what do people think of the... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )

Animating first with multiple cameras and cutting in various ways... By illusionLAB ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]Kelleytoons (1/14/2018)[/b][hr]Folks, I thought I'd start a... By Ziggy72 ( 7 Years Ago )

I agree with Kelley on storyboarding in Iclone. Do it if that's what... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote] Do it if that's what you need to do but, as an amateur (and... By Postfrosch ( 7 Years Ago )

Ultimately it's whatever works for you. For me... drawing 20 panels... By illusionLAB ( 7 Years Ago )

When you write or make a film (animation), you’re either trying to... By Walt_R ( 7 Years Ago )

[Quote] Kelleytoons (1/14/2018) All of us here are animators ,... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

I don't think anyone here has gone OT, as I said -- where I was trying... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]Kelleytoons (1/17/2018)[/b][hr]But all this discussion here... By Ziggy72 ( 7 Years Ago )

KT. Would an example of that be something like animating a character... By Rampa ( 7 Years Ago )

I think a great example of "animation" vs. "filmmaking" was mentioned... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

Rampa, As Dennis notes, the webinar was a good example of the thing... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

3D Animated Film/Movie: All modern (Great) films have a good story.... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )

uncwee :) "Many scenes tell the story with "No" audio.... just... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )

Wow! So many (New) things to remember. Thanks everyone! :) By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )

I have been reading and enjoying all the discussion here. Very good... By theschemer ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]theschemer (1/18/2018)[/b][hr] I have enrolled in several... By rollasoc ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]rollasoc (1/19/2018)[/b][hr][quote][b]theschemer... By theschemer ( 7 Years Ago )

For those interested in storyboarding and screenwriting generally you... By SeanMac ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]theschemer (1/22/2018)[/b] Which course on film scoring did... By rollasoc ( 7 Years Ago )

iClone was initially marketed as a Machinima or real-time filmmaking... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote] As for 3d animation... there's mention of the seminar, but no... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote] Delerna And that is the kind of starting points I am thinking... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )

Alfred Hitchcock "To catch a thief" was one of my favorites. Very... By theschemer ( 7 Years Ago )

I've been considering starting a spin-off thread. The posts about... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

There are some interesting sample videos at this site (links below)... By gordryd ( 7 Years Ago )

@Gordryd, Interesting courses. I watched several of the clips. It... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]gordryd (1/19/2018)[/b][hr]... By rollasoc ( 7 Years Ago )

Re Hollywoodcamerawork courses. I bought these courses years ago and... By SeanMac ( 7 Years Ago )

Dennis, Great share -- that's almost *exactly* what I was going to do... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

Wow, this is an interesting and helpfull thread, thanx for sharing...... By toystorylab ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]toystorylab (1/20/2018)[/b][hr]I can recommend... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]justaviking (1/21/2018)[/b][hr] @Toystorylab... So, have you... By toystorylab ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]toystorylab (1/22/2018)[/b][hr]Yes, i use the software... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

The paid version not only reads your mind, it takes your cash out of... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

@justaviking " Normal 0 false false... By SeanMac ( 7 Years Ago )

I was just joking because of the "free version doesn't read your mind"... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

@Sean, Good comments. I don't remember the tool being tied to a... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

I downloaded and used the free version of Causality awhile back, but... By gordryd ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]SeanMac (1/22/2018)[/b][hr]../.. I got the impression from... By GOETZIWOOD STUDIOS ( 7 Years Ago )

Normal 0 false false false EN-US... By SeanMac ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]SeanMac (1/29/2018)[/b][hr]../.. I suggest we experience our... By GOETZIWOOD STUDIOS ( 7 Years Ago )

Hi grabiller Thanks for that. What can I say? You may well be right... By SeanMac ( 7 Years Ago )

A little review of Storyboarder:... By toystorylab ( 7 Years Ago )

I have had causality ever since I saw its recommendation in the forum... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

Hmmmm I haven't gotten far enough to discover causalities... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

UPDATE Silly me clicked post comment twice because it was reacting... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

Delerna: :) Been there, done that. ;) :cool: pete By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )

Peterblood, good to see your comment. From your previous posts I am... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

Actually my friend, I meant that I've been fooled by the slow post... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]peterblood (1/23/2018)[/b][hr]A, at my age, time is my most... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote] I meant that I've been fooled by the slow post time and... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

I like very much the Hollywood camerawork courses. A lot of learning... By argus1000 ( 7 Years Ago )

There's a few things that I wish to add. I'm sitting down on Sunday... By 4413Media ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]BenjaminTuttle (1/24/2018)[/b][hr]I would build and mold it... By Ziggy72 ( 7 Years Ago )

I follow this discussion from the beginning, it's very interesting.... By Pixtim ( 7 Years Ago )

The technical evolution aspect is a good observation -- iClone in... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

Pixtim: "...the constant technical evolution ... when we do a... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )

On the point of working 2 or 3 minute videos is more likely to get... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

Do you have a link to any of your HP stuff? My wife and I are kind of... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

I think this might be a little off topic but I think it is also... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )

I've had to move projects from earlier versions of iClone as well,... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )

An interesting thing happened tonight; I got a system up and running... By 4413Media ( 7 Years Ago )

Hi, Fascinating topic. Make me think that until now, the majority... By Brick Loko ( 7 Years Ago )

Yes, you have summed up exactly what I was referring to when I started... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]Kelleytoons (1/26/2018)[/b][hr]The number one mistake I see... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

Nah, I disagree with this 100%. A good story, no matter what it is,... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

Understanding the medium (and thus your audience) is a really great... By thebiz.movies ( 7 Years Ago )

One thing we can agree upon -- credits (whether end or beginning) are... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

I think JAV and KT are both correct... people WILL watch a good story... By illusionLAB ( 7 Years Ago )

I also have to agree about the amount of time I'll expect to spend... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )

I call BS but see Dennis' thread for fuller explanation (I'm too tired... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )

Kelley: :) Please explain. :cool: pete By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )

I'll be starting a little lecture series tomorrow. No livestreaming,... By 4413Media ( 7 Years Ago )

I got often asked by friends "why don't you tell a story using iClone... By son.m ( 7 Years Ago )

What is the problem to work with voice actors? If you want to tell a... By thedirector1974 ( 7 Years Ago )

[quote][b]son.m (1/28/2018)[/b][hr]I got often asked by friends "why... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

To add to this: 3 to 5 minutes is an acceptable length for an... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )

I :kiss: my voice actors. They're easy to work with and, although... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )

I went through the Causality tutorials yesterday and I can see it... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )

I was going to try to pull this into the "Structure" thread, but will... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )

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