Okay -- now that I know I won the bet with Gurgen I'm happy <g>

Not so fast Mike :)
I was was estimating based on results on my PC (I have overclocked CPU@4.4).
Looking at the Toystorylab results I can see the dependency on CPU clock speed as well.
Considering Roberto' CPU specs, my ballpark figure appears to be in a range.

BTW  I corrected the spelling of my name in the quote.

@Toystorylab
About the quality. People report differently. But my personal observation is, that quality is better rendering with larger viewport as oppose to with smaller view-port.
I posted some samples here: https://forum.reallusion.com/FindPost394410.aspx

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But once again I want to stress the importance of equal benchmark setup (though it is not going to be equal anymore as it seems the CPU is also playing a significant role - maybe saving images to the disk?)

Here are some additional testing to show how different it might be (even with Windows Taskbar visible or hidden, which effectively changes an iClone view-port size):
2:37 - 1920x1080 - Standard Workspace/TaskBar visible.
2:25 - 1920x1080 - Standard Workspace/TaskBar hidden.
1:45 - 2560x1440 - Standard Workspace/TaskBar hidden.
1:24 - 3840x2160 - Standard Workspace/TaskBar hidden.
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Based on that I'd say we test with:

1. 1920x1080 screen resolution (sorry 4K monitor owners - you have to change resolution before running a test)
2. Enable Auto-hide for Windows Taskbar.
3. Render with iClone Full Screen mode (CTRL+7) detaching Render Image tab after opening from menu.


@Roberto
1080Ti can be still be purchased on Ebay at the fraction of the original price. There is a small risk. But I know at least 2 people who recently got it from Ebay and quite happy. ;)

Are you a lawyer in RL?  Because that's a weasel argument if I ever heard it (me?  I was estimating speeds based on, what, reality?).

Nope -- I won, plain and simple.

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Mike "ex-genius" Kelley

GTX 1060 6Gb  31min 8sec

What reality are you talking about? If same 2 GPUs render the same scene/same resolution with half a minute difference? And that is a reality.
At minimum there is not enough data to make any statements about performance differences and compare anything here (If it is possible at all). We can sure speculate but lets data to be collected.
Advocating RL?  - you lost me there :Whistling:

For 24 Frames??



Toystorylab on Vimeo : 75% of original size (was 671x19) - Click to enlarge    Crassitudes (my "Alter Ego") on Youtube: 75% of original size (was 671x19) - Click to enlarge

If the window and render-settings being different resolutions have an effect because of their mis-match, as Roberto has pointed out, then maybe try with render settings set to "Viewport Resolution". Then make it fullscreen.

2560x1440 screen resolution, iClone default windowed mode
3 min 22

1920x1080 screen resolution, taskbar hidden, iClone fullscreen mode
2 min 51

(GTX 1070)

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So I did the test on both the monitor size and the viewport resolution as a comparison both came out at the same speed but did notice quicker than previous tests being small in size than before. Did the full screen on both tests.
75% of original size (was 671x19) - Click to enlarge

75% of original size (was 671x19) - Click to enlarge

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Yes, for 24 frames. 

I did another test as per the full screen method and got 25min -43 sec.  Faster, but 75% of the frames were unusable do to white mesh lines showing on props.

Wow, sorry but that's hefty...
A 1060 is 10 times slower than a 1080?
Sounds ridiculous.
What CPU and RAM do you have??


Toystorylab on Vimeo : 75% of original size (was 671x19) - Click to enlarge    Crassitudes (my "Alter Ego") on Youtube: 75% of original size (was 671x19) - Click to enlarge