Hi Sean,

If you are buying content then $199 will only get you the Pro version of CrazyTalk 8. However as the offer is for accumulated content, you can spend $199 now and can still spend another $50 before the offer runs out to get the Pipeline version of CrazyTalk 8 free.


                                                                

Peter
Forum Administrator

www.reallusion.com

CrazyTalk 8 isn't a plugin for iClone 6. The Standard version of CrazyTalk 8 works with 2D heads in much the same way as previous versions did. Pro add the ability to do both 2D and 3D heads but both versions have no link to iClone 6. Only the Pipeline version has an export feature to iClone 6.

So if you just want a standalone CrazyTalk like in the past you can go for the Standard or Pro versions. And if you want to stay old school you can still work in 2D. ;)


                                                                

Peter
Forum Administrator

www.reallusion.com

RL you always surprise me ! That´s nice news! Is awesome to see the evolution from all programs! and wonderful think where we go!


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Hi Eric (RL)
Thanks for that.
It is good to hear that a better 3head modeller will be available on the pipeline version of  Crazy Talk 8 . But the details of the offer are heavily contradictory.

I hope you will be able to clarify.

I like many others got an email offer which sets the time window at three days for me to buy a bundle called iClone 6 Essential Power Collection for $199 to get CT8. But I have no means of knowing whether this offer is for CT8 Standard, CT8 Pro or CT8 Pipeline. As well, the Terms & Conditions stipulate that the offer does not include "Any software bundles withincluded content from the Reallusion’s Online Store". That seems to rule out the Essential Power Collection.

On your website offer page (www.reallusion.com/ContentStore/promo/2015-CT8-PreSale/default/html)  you make it clear that the basic offer is: spend $199 to get a free CT8 Pro "worth $149", but you also say there that the Essential Power Collection is priced at "$249".

Finally there is the problem that you are telling me that I have to spend "over $199" to ge offer. Now being legalistic, $199 is NOT over $199. So I would have spent $199 without getting whatever CT8 version it is for the three day email offer which is on promo on that page above for a month.

Surely Reallusion must have people who could have noticed this set of contradictions before you put out the emails and the promo page?

I'm feeling the same way.  As well as upset that CrazyTalk, a fantastic product in it's own right, is now nothing more than a plugin for iClone. Of course I don't know this for sure, but I'm a long time RL customer, and it wouldn't be the first time RL upset me with their direction.

One of the great things about CrazyTalk was you could use literally any photograph.  They didn;t have to be professional portraits with front and side shots.  And the results were great.  But now with the focus on creating 3d head, and having to have front and side images, the entertainment value of CT is going down.  Which is a shame... We also lost the capability of making talking photographs.  The 3D head is blad, and for hair we no doubt will have to use 3D content, purchaseable as content packs from RL no doubt.  No, I'm not at all happy CrazyTalk was subverted for this usage into 3D...

Can you tell us more about the facial mocap interface you have planned?  Will it be universal for different facial mocap softwares?  

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Mike "ex-genius" Kelley

Well, well - RL really do know how to get rid of long-time customers. :crying:

I've been using iClone since version 2, and one of the great features even then was the ability to create custom faces/heads directly inside the App. I had assumed that the absence of this feature in IC 6 was only something temporary to be reintroduced in a future patch update.

Now the cold hard truth has been published - either users spend $249.00 on content, or pay $199.00 for the CT8 Pipeline version just to the ability to do something that has always been included as an integral part of iClone!!!!!!!! :w00t::alien::sick:

If there was content available for purchase that I could justify spending $249.00 on then I would have already done that. If I had any need for CrazyTalk I would already own and use it - I did purchase a discounted version once somewhere, but couldn't fit it into my workflow.

I am afraid to even contemplate just how much money I have invested in RL products since IC 2, but I don't for one second regret it. I spent money on assets that I found suitable to achieve my goals, and satisfy my limited "creative talents".  I have had a lot of enjoyment using both iClone and 3DXchange, but being slapped around the face to pay between $200.00 and $250.00 by RL just to obtain the ability to do something that has always been a core element of their software is just too much to take. :(:crazy::doze::exclamationmark:

Gerry

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