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Need help creating particles/effects for import and use in iclone video

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Recently, I bought the hitfilm2 ultimate video editor and effects package.

I need to build some particles/special effects for import into iclone 5.

I would appreciate to read some hints and tricks on how to do this.

The particles/effects I need are not available or possible using iclone presets.

Also, the particles effects files appear to have iclone unique file types, which probably means I need to use my 3DXChange pro as well.







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I could be wrong but I'm thinking the effects you'll get from that package will be 2D in nature not 3D. Like an animation with an alpha channel that will be brought into iClone. It will need to be positioned correctly for the camera because it will be "flat" not 3D. At least I think that's what you will get.

The Hitfilm effects may be more effective in Post.

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Why not the other way ?
Render the ICLONE scene and compose the particle effects in HitFilm !

If your ICLONE object is a static one, then take the 3d Model to Hit Film and use the particle effects there.

I typically compose the gun fire and other effects in HitFilm / After effects.
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I usually finish all iclone projects in Sony Vegas Pro, sound effects, titles and music always.

I guess your suggestion may be an easier solution, except I must have my characters and props that will be affected by the particle effects just right. I can probably take some iclone particle effect and work with it to get things set right in iclone. Then apply the effect I desire to use in HitFilm.

Actually, it may be alot faster this way. I seem to be doing almost as much work outside the iclone as I do inside iclone.

It is definitely worth giving it a go.

Thanks for the suggestion




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Stick to your favourite NLE.

Everything else must be your Feeder Programme(s), even if they are NLE's , 2D / 3D , Special Effect Programmes.

Generate the Image Sequence from HIT FILM / After Effects.

Also Look at the Video Copilot stand alone / After Effects,
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Like I said Hitfilm will probably be better in Post!

I did with limited success get a "gunshot effect on a wall" to work in iClone by rendering the effect with an alpha channel and placing it in the iClone scene. A bit too subtle but I think with a bit more work on my part it could have worked OK....






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I think a 3D Rendition of OBJ Animation from DAZ or a sculpting software can help create an interesting Bullet on the Wall effect - a sort of slight Procedural destruction effect.

Like wall opening up and dust flying......then the bullet head flying off.....

This could be treated as a Morphed Prop.
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I don't understand why tracking in a 3d environment , usually we track 2d footage to bring 3d stuff in a 2d footage.... but may I have not see all ....
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Thanks for the link Swoooop , but it is not new ;-)
This is my job to track 2D footage to import 3D stuff (logo or text ) .
But I think I missunderstand what you said. Are you talking about the ability of Iclone tracking 2d footage to put 3d props or characters anim ?
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Either one Prog can EXPORT the camera data or another Prog can SIMULATE / IMPORT the camera data from the video footage.

In the 2nd case, it's easier.

If one has to follow the 1st case, then perhaps RL must come up with few Plug-ins :

1) ICLONE2AE
2 ICLONE2HITFILM
3) ICLONE2AP
4) ICLONE2.....
5) ......
6) ......



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