@prabhat - i can answer this one. to a degree, prior to my current card - I had a gt 9400 and was having the same issues as Lynn....then I upgraded to my 460 and my cpu was slowing my card down - now I upgraded my cpu ..and my drive is slowing the process down - so I found for best performance you really need a balanced computer build because each part plays it's role. if the cpu is choking, it will choke everything else with it. - iclone will perform as fast as your slowest part. The gpu matters for being able to hit play and watch whats happening on screen - the cpu matters for all the reasons I've mentioned earlier in this thread - and the memory matters for reasons that Animagic pointed out by enabling xmp and having iclone run faster ...and finally the drive matters for load and save to disk times. So having anyone of these more powerful than the other is moot, if the slowest part is slowing everything else down.

@ lynn - the gtx 650 is a nice card, it's faster than my current card and I'm blazing through iclone. it ranges from us $119 - 180'ish - depending on what manufacturer and options you get on it - ie a regular 650 or a 650 ti boost. an even better card that is great for the price is the gtx 760 which runs about 250 ( which is a great price for a 700 series video card - ie compared to the 780 which runs about $660 )

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One part is general fast screen refresh, the other is actually transferring the load of processing and rendering to GPU. As far as I know DAZ does not have the support for GPU as yet. So I want to know in unambiguous/clear terms if ICLONE supports GPU in real sense.

YES!!!! :D

iClone most certainly does use GPU, it doesn't take full advantage of single or multi-threaded SLI GPU(Dual 2x 2GB GTX 680m), meaning iClone isn't optimized to do so, but basically your gpu is responsible for displaying the point space in real-time with shaders so that's the points lines and faces = polygons, moving onscreen so ideally the faster the GPU+memory size = how many frames per second you will get with all the bells and whistle on i.e. motion, atmospheric, physics, particles, post processing , large scene elements(poly-count), lens effect.

The CPU on the other hand is responsible for calling the commands that you tell it into GPU memory or system memory, when you change a field, or open a prop, or pressing play, but once it is displayed, it's on the GPU (hopefully Dedicated and not Integrated or Embedded graphics), so if your CPU is fast & your GPU is slow, or vise-verse, iClone will be inherently slow.

There is a limit on what even the most powerful computers can do, unless you stack a CPU/GPU render farm into infinity-X-infinity.

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planetstardragon thank you for this comprehensive explanation and for the specs and prices of the cards, much appreciated :)

Unfortunately, I'm not aiming for the Oscars and I would like to get this project finished before Xmas and so compositing is pretty much out of the question.
The problem scene already has everything deleted which is not in the view port so there is nothing to gain there either.

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Thank you as well, I'm looking into upgrading my graphics card and adding more memory

In the meantime, I did a restore point to bring back v5.4 but now - on loading iClone - I'm having a problem with the script debug telling me :



and I can only close iClone again.

Please, how can I fix this ??? :crying:

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Windows System Restore  is a Diagnostic Tool for identifying if a particular Hardware / Software change is the cause of eg; a Windows OS Stop Error Message (BSOD). It doesn't have any effect on reverting back-to an earlier version of a Program, to debug any faults in a later Version. Putting it simply.;) More often than not, it can make matters worse, as you've found-out.

Go back into System Restore & undo that Restore Point.

BTW- Your Project was created in iC5.4 & IMO,  has now been converted to iC5.5 Project File Format. IMO, you can't now Open your Project in iC5.4

I hope you have backed-up your Project?

If you can't Open your Project in iC5.5, IMO you should start a new Thread dedicated to your problem, Copying what you've Posted here into that Thread for background information & take it from there..

Anyone-else?

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btw, I'm using virtu MVP - a nifty little software that uses a combination of any cpus that have built in gpu / video - no conflicts with iclone so far and seems to be helping a lot - almost like having sli - 2 video cards - I can only speak for my system though as the motherboard came with the software - i really don't feel any need to upgrade my gtx 460 at the moment, not sure if part of that credit belongs to virtu.

http://www.lucidlogix.com/product-virtu-mvp.shtml

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lynn, if you still have the 5.4 patch file you could try to reapply that.

But, I've experienced the same problem that you are having after a system restore: a non-functional iClone (I thought I could revert, which, in theory, is possible according to MS).

If you still have your older install files, you could try to uninstall and reinstall up to 5.4.

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Read my Post above first.

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Thank you all :)

I have just completely uninstalled iClone and reinstalled up to v.5.41 and everything works fine again. Only the one file that I had started in v.5.5 is not backward compatible but that's no problem for it's easy enough to set it up again.

At least now I can continue to use the software until I can upgrade my PC but not looking forward to it :(

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Good stuff, glad this thread is helping. :D

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