My CC3 has been crashing on Undo using the skin tool a lot. I can't figure a specific pattern or option that's triggers it. Curious if anyone else has noticed.

Hi PSD

Please by all means add your suggestion to the Feedback Tracker and it will be considered. 

However, I do find it puzzling that presumably you have a powerful computer to run iClone/CC3 on and yet you want to dumb it down with a low res monitor from about 10 years ago. In the last year or so demands for 4K support grew and soon it will be demands for 8K support. I'm not sure that the team will want to spend time adding support for outdated resolutions that hardly anyone still uses. But of course you never know. ;)


                                                                

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I'm. Music Producer / artist -  DJ - CG Artist  - keeping up with the tech on everything ( which I barely do )  is expensive,  and streaming at .0003 cents a song play on spotify is pretty thankless, ( the hope is a long term investment for licensing - which is working but painfully slow when competing vs the music industry illuminati lol ) and a majority of my releases get pirated to boot,   earlier this year I had a #1 song ....could barely afford a cup of coffee from it's payoff lol. this covid lockdown isn't helping either!  - heck,  it's from RL's Kindness of allowing me to use DA points that I'm able to keep up with all things iclone.  - put it this way,  to get the gear I really want to update my music production,  is easily over $10k - but i'm still charting with sticks and stones,  so onward and upward! 

I don't want them to change the resolution on the program,  I'm sure it's a check box somewhere that simply allows us to resize a data panel....the view screen of the animiation itself  and renders looks great ....it's perfect no need to fix that.. I'm even happy with the current render engine,  I've been able to pull out some really great renders with it

Which btw....I still believe in your products and the company very much,  so I will point out what needs to be fixed!! 
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I'm having a few things happening with CC3.3.
(1) LOOKS GOOD IN CC, BAD IN iCLONE:  Has anyone figured out why the new CC3+ characters look good in CC but really fake and bad in Iclone? Or is it just my install?

****SOLVED*** This was because of lighting. In iClone, I found a lighting setup that was close to the CC setup, and the results then looked the same as in CC.

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(2) EVERYTHING IS LOW RES. Even in CC3.3, everything is very low resolution. Where have the 4k base character versions gone? Or is there now a different way for me to tell CC to "use high resolution textures and show me them, now"? :-) Everything seems super low res, even in CC. Here's an example, when I zoom into Caleb in CC3.3:

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**UPDATE: This remains an issue. I have tried updating all the skin textures (via “activate skin editor”) to 4096, but that seems to make no actual difference. Blurry. And this blurriness is then the same when I transfer model to iClone.


(3) iRay render seems broken. It looks like the skin is fried and bright red:
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(4) I hope they are making a video showing how to achieve results like this in CC (obviously with new premium Skingen) :-) I'm struggling a little with the complexity of the new interface and all the options ( I have the paid skingen). Would love some step by step guides to the example images!!


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There also seems to be a sudden increase in resolution when I activate the Skin Editor. Anyone else experiencing that? 
Here is with skin editor off:
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and on:
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BTW when I render, the quality is the blurry one I'm seeing in the viewport - not the much better quality that I'm seeing in the Skin Editor

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I found a solution, If you power off your PC then Character Creator will rebuild the morph sliders, but when I close it and open it again my CCv3 will open just fine..  So I guess just keep the PC running 24/7.

I'm curious, 
Can I do these in cc3+ without Skin Gen Premium? 
Or can I do these with Skin Gen Premium?  
Or can't I do these ?

1. Changing eyebrow or eyelash color. 
    Default color is brown. I want to make them black. 
 
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2. remove freckle
3. remove mustache and beard

I could remove freckle, mustache and beard in Appearance Editor. But can't find these functions in cc3+. 

If I can do these with Skin Gen Premium, Please let me know. 

Thank you. 

@mrtobycook: Check the Real-time Texture Size setting in Preference. If it is lower than what SkinGen uses you will experience blurriness in the view port.

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Thanks @animagic I’ll try that!

I have a top Ryzen processor, lots of ram and a 2080 ti but I get quite a long delay after I press “activate editor” under skin. Is that normal? Also, if I change it to 4096 pixels forget it - it takes a loooong time to process that (10 mins?) then seems to make zero difference to what is actually exported.

I hope there’s a video tutorial being made that explains how to actually do all this 😂

UPDATE: After re-watching the official videos, I can see that it’s perfectly normal for there to be a HUGE wait after clicking “activate editor”. :))))

May I please please suggest that a modal appears and says “activating skin editor can take several minutes the first time, as cache files are built. There are ways to speed up the process, please click here for more!“ then the user is linked to an article that summarizes, in a friendly and clear way like Kai does in the video “Skingen performance settings”, all the things that can speed this up (plus how to delete cache etc)

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As a follow up to the issue with Headshot Saturation, I am finding the issue is more prominent when using darker skinned character photos, the saturation on the "old CC3 head" area is heavier than is the saturation on the "old CC3 neck".
Mind you, the colors blend well, so there is not a drastic line between the 2.  But the Saturation difference gets quite pronounced.on the darker skinned characters.

When you try to update the body and "old CC3 neck" you wind up updating everything, including the "old CC3 head". 
So the only way to really get it to match is to desaturate the "old CC3 head" best-you-can in an external image editor.