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OFFICIAL iClone 7.2 Issues Thread

Posted By Peter (RL) 9 Years Ago
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@4u2ges: Thanks for the demo project!  I'll check it out, as I will be in need of a mirror at some point...

I made an FT request for a mirror in iClone 6 and repeated it for iClone 7, but the need predates iClone 5. I feel we've been talking about mirrors forever...:crazy:

Anyway, for those who want a mirror, haven't voted yet, and can spare a vote: it's issue #3371


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Found another one. This time it's a Tessellation Shadow and it's messing with the mirror prop made from water. Although there is no tessellation turned on for any prop in the scene, an artificial shadow (cannot even call it a shadow) from props behind mirror would mask it. So nothing can be placed behind a water anymore. Annoying!



what I would like to know.. how did you make the mirror? I want to make mirrors too!

vidius




Sort of figured out how to deal with inappropriate "Tessellation shadow". Disabling a Real-Time Smooth on props behind mirror fixed the problem (just keep solving puzzles :Whistling:)


Mr_Vidius, there are couple of ways to make a mirror in iClone and many threads explaining how to make it. In IC5 there was a trick with directX I believe, but I never had that version installed.
Starting with IC6, no matter which way you go, it is a hassle to make a mirror and control/animate the scene.
If I need to make a scene with a mirror, I prefer the one with 90 degrees twisted scene and I have a demo project which may get you started.
It was created in IC6, so to make it work properly in IC7 some tweaking would require (including the one I have just discovered above).
I have reported one other issue with reflection in IC7  FT3726 and it has already been assigned. So hopefully it'll be fixed in the next update.

What left, is a hope that someday RL would finally come up with "real" mirror prop, saving us a hassle to deal with water reflection (Sigh... there I said it... 1001st time).





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4u2ges (1/13/2018)
Found another one. This time it's a Tessellation Shadow and it's messing with the mirror prop made from water. Although there is no tessellation turned on for any prop in the scene, an artificial shadow (cannot even call it a shadow) from props behind mirror would mask it. So nothing can be placed behind a water anymore. Annoying!

Tessellation Shadow is OFF

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/587d6f7c-f630-4181-8caa-851f.jpg

Tessellation Shadow is ON

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what I would like to know.. how did you make the mirror? I want to make mirrors too!

vidius

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an artificial shadow (cannot even call it a shadow) from props behind mirror would mask it.

Annoying, but REALLY handy in a vampire story... :crazy: ~V~





Speaking of vampires. That is how I feel right now. Mesh emitters do not go well with Super Sampling. Keeps crashing and rebooting my computer during render :alien:

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an artificial shadow (cannot even call it a shadow) from props behind mirror would mask it.

Annoying, but REALLY handy in a vampire story... :crazy: ~V~



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Found another one. This time it's a Tessellation Shadow and it's messing with the mirror prop made from water. Although there is no tessellation turned on for any prop in the scene, an artificial shadow (cannot even call it a shadow) from props behind mirror would mask it. So nothing can be placed behind a water anymore. Annoying!

Tessellation Shadow is OFF

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/587d6f7c-f630-4181-8caa-851f.jpg

Tessellation Shadow is ON

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/9dae04e8-825c-4074-8c70-141e.jpg






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Not particularly for v7.2, but there should be a better memory management in iClone IMO. Most of the the freezing and crashing problems in applications come from poor memory management and leaks. I did not extensively investigated/tested this. I understand some stuff needs to be cached for fast access. But nowadays with SSDs it should not be that much of a problem.

Just a fact. Today I opened some intense scene (textures vise). It was initially saved in "quick mode" so I can animate without a hassle. Took about 900 Mb in RAM. I  did not switch the mode, did not add any new props. Only animation on a timeline and a few motion clips (deleted and added number of times) and a few saves. 2 hours later RAM taken by iClone was above 5 GB. Why keep that much stuff no longer needed in memory?
I am not even mentioning Indigo. Almost nothing is getting released once you open and close your scene in Indigo. It is not that critical with simple scenes. But my RAM used to get maxed out on some complex scenes after just a few tries. Always have to close and restart iClone fresh.

Just thoughts...




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TonyDPrime (1/13/2018)
MixMoves and SpeedTree... I thought they were going to try and make it work...I didn't realize they were still separated, dating other parts of iClone...weren't they going to therapy or something?  What have they been saying? In other words....GOSSIP TIME!!! :rolleyes: 

Too funny! :laugh:  ~V~



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Well, I just re-discovered that Speedtree still conflicts with MixMoves...
Same Workaround - iCLONE TEMPLATE > MOGRAPHCLASSIFIED> "00 Female (CC)" folder....change folder name to something else (ie - "00 Female (CC) 1) temporarily before loading iClone.
If you change the name, then Speedtrees appear normally, otherwise, they are invisible. Note that Mix Moves then becomes unavailable.

MixMoves and SpeedTree...
I thought they were going to try and make it work...I didn't realize they were still separated, dating other parts of iClone...weren't they going to therapy or something?  What have they been saying?

In other words....GOSSIP TIME!!! :rolleyes:
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Rogue Anime (1/9/2018)
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Ahhh...In a way, the right mouse button winds up being the wrong mouse button to press.
Think about that for a moment....

And for a dyslexic left-handed person w/a left-hand mouse, that was a real brain-bleeder!  ~V~ ;)



Whoa! :laugh:

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