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OFFICIAL iClone 7.2 Issues Thread

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TonyDPrime (1/9/2018)
Ahhh...In a way, the right mouse button winds up being the wrong mouse button to press.
Think about that for a moment....

And for a dyslexic left-handed person w/a left-hand mouse, that was a real brain-bleeder!  ~V~ ;)



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4u2ges (1/9/2018)
Right Val, and I found the source of the problem later on with "delete" key (post above). If you do right mouse on effect key once, the "delete" would stop working, until you do right mouse click again on some key other than effect... weird! 

4U - Always the NEXT issue, OTW! Thanks for your reply. The oddest thing is, since I had no issues & it works fine for ME, I had no idea others were having the issue until I read-the-thread!  Wonder what ELSE I'm getting right... lol ~V~:laugh:



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Rogue Anime (1/9/2018)
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All of the post effects can be deleted simply by selecting them in the Effects list panel and then clicking on the "Delete" icon.

 I have always simply moved the LUT/HDR keyframes using the mouse where I want to on the timeline, or just hit the 'delete' key to remove them, so I have had no issues here having not opposite clicked on the mouse to delete keyframes.   ~V~




Ahhh...
Now having read what 4u2ges just posted, you were never right-clicking the mouse button, and thus, you encountered no issue....
Whereas, I was always right-clicking to try to get this to work, and then even if I would next attempt a keyboard-delete, I would find it didn't work.
Okay great, like you show in your video, and like 4u2ges described, a workaround is if you DO NOT use the right mouse button, you are good to go.   I can as well also delete now if not having right-clicked.

ISSUE - A right-click on a Post-Effect timeline key locks out that post effect key from being able to be deleted. 
Workaround involves using any other means to delete the post effect, including keyboard delete key, without ever using a mouse-button right-click on that key.
  
In a way, the right mouse button winds up being the wrong mouse button to press.
Think about that for a moment....
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Right Val, and I found the source of the problem later on with "delete" key (post above). If you do right mouse on effect key once, the "delete" would stop working, until you do right mouse click again on some key other than effect... weird!




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4u2ges (1/9/2018)
[quote]HDR - Yes   LUT - No   Anything under "Effect" cannot be deleted regardless (after last update I think). Not with right mouse click nor with delete keyboard key as Tony discovered. Did you try it lately on IC 7.2? 

4u2ges - I have no problems deleting effect keyframes on my timeline in 7.2 simply using the 'delete' key - Here is a quick video of me doing this on my timeline to show that it works for me..   ~V~





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TonyDPrime (1/9/2018)
At minimum it would be more intuitive if you would right-click and you could delete it, because otherwise it makes the user wonder if there's some functional reason why it shouldn't be able to be deleted. 
Thinking out loud, perhaps this is connected to the earlier notes by Shadoesword in this thread about copying and pasting keys for individual bones, and how the introduction of the curve editor changed some of the workings. 

@4u2ges - in the 7.1 issues thread, you brought up that we no longer had the ability to set curve presets from the key root.  
Does that issue still remain, or did you find a workflow that works okay?  Just was remembering that.



No Tony, the problem still remains. Nobody entered this particular one into FT. But I kind of used to it... Geee, all I do is get used TO...

But I found out how to really delete the Effect keys with keyboard "delete". Whatever you do, do NOT right mouse click on that key. If you click on it once and grayed out menu showed up, "Delete" key would stop working. BUT, if you just right mouse click on ANY other working key (like HDR) after that, then you may delete an Effect key with the "Delete" keyboard key... Now just get used to that :)




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At minimum it would be more intuitive if you would right-click and you could delete it, because otherwise it makes the user wonder if there's some functional reason why it shouldn't be able to be deleted. 
Thinking out loud, perhaps this is connected to the earlier notes by Shadoesword in this thread about copying and pasting keys for individual bones, and how the introduction of the curve editor changed some of the workings. 

@4u2ges - in the 7.1 issues thread, you brought up that we no longer had the ability to set curve presets from the key root.  
Does that issue still remain, or did you find a workflow that works okay?  Just was remembering that.
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All of the post effects can be deleted simply by selecting them in the Effects list panel and then clicking on the "Delete" icon.

 I have always simply moved the LUT/HDR keyframes using the mouse where I want to on the timeline, or just hit the 'delete' key to remove them, so I have had no issues here having not opposite clicked on the mouse to delete keyframes.   ~V~




HDR - Yes
LUT - No
Anything under "Effect" cannot be deleted regardless (after last update I think). Not with right mouse click nor with delete keyboard key as Tony discovered. Did you try it lately on IC 7.2?

And no Curve Presets are available either for Effects...


Here is a quick video on Effect keys with override option






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wires (1/8/2018)
All of the post effects can be deleted simply by selecting them in the Effects list panel and then clicking on the "Delete" icon.

 I have always simply moved the LUT/HDR keyframes using the mouse where I want to on the timeline, or just hit the 'delete' key to remove them, so I have had no issues here having not opposite clicked on the mouse to delete keyframes.   ~V~




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Another workaround, is to simply override the key you are trying to delete. Drag the very first frame key over the key you are trying to delete. And then, when key is overridden, drag that key back to frame one - Done! 





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