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Please be patient with me ..... I don't always 'get it' the first time 'round - not even the 2nd time! :(  - yikes! ... 

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in the spirit of making at least one post on topic ( while still on ai ) ....I present this video -  it was partly inspired by this thread ( thank you ),  and an article I had chatgpt  write,  the artwork is all ai, and the voice is google tts with lots of post fx work - the music and audio is me,   technically it's all me,  but if you think ai is alive then it was us lol -  the delivery is scifi but the story is real.

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Jason's thoughts (above) are very valid. Further to keeping customers 'faithful' is to make software that works 'for' you and 'with' you, devoid of in-built 'gotchas' (like purpose built co-dependencies requiring other in-range-products; effectively pay walls). Creators want creative 'freedom', without excessive software or pricing shackles, otherwise they end up 'forever learning' (becoming technicians) and never creating much at all. While the software provider wins financially in the short to mid-term, are they looking after customers for the long term? Solo creators already have a gazillion other concerns; (story, scene-blocking, audio, SFX, lighting, compositing, editing, color-grading, foley, mix-down ...) so anything that simplifies this ONE element (animation) is attractive. Some of these other tasks require software too, which also cost 'money' or 'learning-time' or both. But of-course companies do what they do to survive in a competitive world. Yet surely an important part of that survival is being 'faithful' to customers too. If software creators and customers have mutual trust in each other, both benefit. (though some would argue 'there's simply no loyalties in business'). But there *should be* and it should start with the software provider gaining and maintaining customer trust. They should be perceived as benefactors to their customers.

@Baseline ..... that's amazing - I hadn't seen this before ....

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Please be patient with me ..... I don't always 'get it' the first time 'round - not even the 2nd time! :(  - yikes! ... 

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Yeah, Wonder Studios is what I signed up for.  It's ONLY for avatars (so limited) but I still think the potential is there for us animators by bringing them into our animations like we do for products like Anima.

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Bassline beat me to it
https://wonderdynamics.com/#features

Now combine this tech with AI generated depth environments and.....BOOM!!

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I don't know for sure, but from the very first time I saw Adobe, followed by other software businesses instituting subscription in lieu of outright purchasing, I thought one word. GREED. But then, I listened about how they wanted to avoid putting themselves out of business due to users purchasing software, not upgrading or replacing it. That did make sense. But then this cloud business, and as we know via cable and satellite services, the next step is steeper and steeper fees, sometimes with shorter and shorter intervals, I again thought; GREED. One reason, I keep buying products and upgrading CC and iClone is because RL to date hasn't joined the greed herd. I hope they never do. But as customers, we need to give them a reason not to do so, and that means being and remaining faithful customers. Now, this AI thing, is yet another challenge that might make current animation software and its pricing schemes, obsolete. In not a small part, due to greed, where customer flock to it to avoid having their wallets milked dry by greed businesses seek to perpetually suckle at the nipples of said wallets of captured customers. We may be seeing the coming end of the wolves of digital street. Hopefully, this will exclude RL, due to smart navigation of changes encroaching even now.


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I'll post in my other post - this thread has already gone OT a bit too much (and some of it is my fault :>).

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Hey Mike! ......  Great to hear from you!  How did your operation go? .....

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Please be patient with me ..... I don't always 'get it' the first time 'round - not even the 2nd time! :(  - yikes! ... 

● MSI GT72VR Laptop, i7 7700HQ 4-Core 3.8 GHz 16GB RAM; Nvidia 1070, 8GB Vram ● iClone-7.93 ● 3DXChange Pipeline 7.81 ● CC-3 Pipeline 3.44 ● Live Face ● HeadShot ● Brekel Pro-Body ● Popcorn FX ● iRAY ● Kinect V2 ● DaVinci Resolve17 ● Mixcraft 8.1

I actually FINALLY saw a product that might do things for animation (and live motion) that could be game changing - taking even a live action person and making them into almost any 3D model you can think of.

It's strictly avatar based, so if you wanted to do your whole movie you'd have to still work around the background, but it would solve a ton of mocap issues (replacing mocap suits, for example).  Not sure of the cost (because it's beta) but for once I might actually be wrong about something (and I would LOVE to be wrong this time - it looks amazing unlike some of the other stuff I've signed up for that has too many artifacts to be usable).

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Mike "ex-genius" Kelley