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Kinect V2 --is it worth it?

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I am considering investing in the X-box 1 Kinect sensor and the Iclone plugin for motion capture. I'd love to hear from anyone who uses it to review its pros and cons. 



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I have the first generation, but still haven´t used it that much, so I can´t draw a final conclusion.

In fact I would like to expand your question. Is the 2nd generation Kinect so much better than the 1st?
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Having looked at some video samples posted of mocaps, the results look very jittery and jerky.



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Well, you have to tweak them, but apparently nobody is using mocaps, huh? ;)
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I guess not. I think the mocap samples I saw online may have  already been tweaked, but were still very clunky. I've searched out other threads on this product and haven't found much on version 2. It may be that it's just too much trouble to use. maybe I'll try to save up for the higher end mocap stuff. 



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Did you also watch this RL tutorial?



I think in the long run the high end mocap stuff is the way to go, but because of its current price tag it only makes sense, if you are going to use it seriously.

Keep in mind that if you want to capture samba for instance, you have to learn that before, or get someone who can perform it. ;)
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Yeah, guess I better start brushing up on my samba..:cool:.  I did look at the RL tutorials, but this simple, single mocap of a basketball shoot doesn't really give me an idea if the product can capture decent quality movements of some complexity on a consistent basis. I currently spend a lot of time messing with existing clips to get the right accents of movement to match with dialog and to get the right kind of body language for a character. If I could make my own it would speed up the process,  I don't want to be spending a lot of time cleaning and fixing up the captures, as that would kind of defeat the purpose.  



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I hear ya. I´ll keep you informed, when I found the time to test my Kinect.

Meanwhile I´m going for the sa sa salsa. In some cases the real life experience is unbeatable anyway. Hola chica! :D


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Some time ago, Rampa did a tutorial on how to use Direct Puppet to combine motions in place (without using Collect Clip) here: https://forum.reallusion.com/296010/Quick-Tip-Mixdown-all-your-clips-to-one-in-place. You basically record with Direct Puppet, which will blend the motions, but you keep the mouse stationary as you're not adding anything. Rampa suggests that doing this has a smoothing effect that may be useful for Kinect-recorded Mocap.




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It is subtle though. But you can greatly enhance any smoothing it does, and introduce some additional smoothing by using another trick from 3DTest. This will have a stonger effect.



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