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Peter (RL)
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Peter (RL)
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BurningWoodMedia (2/15/2023) What about animations? I've noticed all animations are standard license, but can I use like a run animation for multiple characters I export to a game? Yes. Animations can be used in multiple games and with multiple characters all with only the Standard License. The same applies to Props.
Peter Forum Administrator www.reallusion.com
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Nebula480
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Nebula480
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Just wanted to come and express my disgust with this company after having spending a plethora of money over the years only to find out that now I have to spend more just to be able to use the hair that I had already purchased over a stupid licensing model that doesn't change anything game wise. I will go out of my way to make sure that everyone knows what a horrible practice they have in place and to stay away.
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Sophus
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Nebula480 (9/24/2024) Just wanted to come and express my disgust with this company after having spending a plethora of money over the years only to find out that now I have to spend more just to be able to use the hair that I had already purchased over a stupid licensing model that doesn't change anything game wise. I will go out of my way to make sure that everyone knows what a horrible practice they have in place and to stay away.
If you bought an old export license in the past, I think that it should automatically update to an extended license.
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Nebula480
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Nebula480
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Perhaps you can help me calm the waters within lol. I'm trying to understand the following based off " -
CC Component: CC Component is Character Creator’s proprietary file format. CC Components include, but are not limited to ccAvatars, ccProjects, ccSliders, ccHair, ccCloth, ccShoes and ccGloves that are used to create, assemble, or customize unlimited characters.
Standard Licenses grant the use of characters with CC Components for all commercial imagery. However, for use in commercial games, XR projects and interactive services, one Standard License only grants outputs for one single character. Extended License grants mass character outputs with no limitation for use in commercial games, XR projects and online interactive services. You can repeatedly use CC components to create characters for different titles or projects with a one-time purchase of the Extended License. -
One Specific Character: One Specific Character: For example, a hairstyle component with Standard license can only be applied to one specific character and may not be shared across multiple characters. However, this specific character can be used in various projects, games, XR, and interactive services as well, as long as it is the same character."
I want to purchase Smart Hair Prime Hairstyles that comes with 10 sets of hair. Lets say I have 10 characters, and each receive one different hairstyle from the pack. As long as I don't put one of those 10 hair sets on another new character, I should be fine under standard license to release my game commercially under the Standard license according to point 2 listed above? Specifically: "a hairstyle component with Standard license can only be applied to one specific character and may not be shared across multiple characters"?
Essentially, every character can get one set of hair without repeats of that hairstyle, meaning every hair style in the world is unique and there cannot be a copy of it on another character? As long as I don't give everybody the same hairdo I'm fine under standard?
I dont want to pay $268 for extended if I only intend to use the scenario above where I can release my game commercially as long as every character only uses one hair set once.
If my assessment is incorrect is it then that I can only use one set of hair from the pack of 10 and if I wanna use more I have to pay for the extended?
Would this also apply to the PBR realistic clothing I bought under standard license from reallusion content store? For example I bought a jogger suit under standard license but only one player character will wear that in the entire game therefore I don't need to purchase extended correct?
Your help is greatly appreciated
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Sophus
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Yeah, components like cloth or hair with a standard licenses can be used once. No extended license needed in that case.
By the way, there are also game ready hair styles available in other stores, for example Artstation.
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Nebula480
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Nebula480
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I appreciate the help.
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araffa040872
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araffa040872
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Hello,
I guess I'm a little late for this party. I started using CC4/IC8 back in Nov 2023. I spent a considerable amount of money on not only the software package itself, but the content store / marketplace.
Reading between the lines, I am only just realizing that 75% of the content I purchased, I cannot use them in any video game production for commercial sales. Wow..... that literally just sucked all enthusiasm out of me for wanting to continue this journey of game development......I can certainly start all over with another product but.... this is truly disheartening....
Also, is there anyway to tell from within CC4 if the asset you are using is a Standard license vs Extended license ? How are we supposed to keep track of that while inside the software ?
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Sophus
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araffa040872 (10/17/2024) Hello,
I guess I'm a little late for this party. I started using CC4/IC8 back in Nov 2023. I spent a considerable amount of money on not only the software package itself, but the content store / marketplace.
Reading between the lines, I am only just realizing that 75% of the content I purchased, I cannot use them in any video game production for commercial sales. Wow..... that literally just sucked all enthusiasm out of me for wanting to continue this journey of game development......I can certainly start all over with another product but.... this is truly disheartening....
Also, is there anyway to tell from within CC4 if the asset you are using is a Standard license vs Extended license ? How are we supposed to keep track of that while inside the software ?Standard license content can be used in once in a single project, if I remember it correctly. So you can make one game with them. And if you get some sales and generate income, you can buy the extended license for future projects. By the way, this isn't a problem for certain content. For example, motions are only available with a standard license, and can be used in many commercial projects. You can easily see the license in your past purchases in your customer account at Reallusion. Besides that, there isn't any difference between standard license content and extended license content. It's just on paper.
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araffa040872
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araffa040872
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@Sophus - thank you, I am familiar with the licensing agreements. Yes you are correct that you can use components on 1 character, but that's not even close to practical nor trackable. The fact of the matter is, and I take full blame for it, I did not read the fine print and made a huge mistake with investing my time and money into Reallusion. This is simply not affordable for any individual and/or indy developer unless they want to reuse the same 10 hairstyles in all of the game productions. Here is another kick in the pants. There is not even an upgrade opportunity. So basically if you purchased the standard license and want the extended license, you have to buy it at full price ! I'm sorry but that is not good business by my standards. There should at the very least be a license upgrade option. I guarantee to you there a hundreds if not thousands of customers in this same boat and a good portion of them have yet to realize how the licensing works. I am enclosing this link so that any others reading this topic and look at the complete licensing agreements along with the FAQ. https://www.reallusion.com/license/content.html34% of original size (was 1511x132) - Click to enlarge
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Sophus
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@araffa040872
In my personal opinion the Reallusion content is very expensive for individuals, that's correct.
Besides that, you can get very(!) affordable assets in other stores, for example get clothes or hairstyles in the Artstation marketplace if you don't want to create them yourself in a 3d software.
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