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Saeder
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Saeder
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Peter (RL) (8/16/2022) The Extended License is for content that is used in mass distributed commercial games or applications. If your games are free then an Extended License won't be required.
Hello, simple question, what do you mean by ' mass distributed commercial games or applications'. for example: - If I create a small game, with a CC4 character and some friends buy it from me (approximately 20 friends) it is a mass distribution?
- If I create a Patreon page ( or ... ... ) for a game with a CC4 character, and a few people donate money each month, it is a mass distribution?
- If I create a game with a CC4 character, put it on Steam and it is sold to 10 copies, it is a mass distribution?
What is the limit for you, 1 is already considered a mass distribution ? I understand that creating a AAA game with these CC4 characters requires a mass distribution license, but for small games between friends or small community, where do you place the limit (if there is a limit)
Merci
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yepkoo
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Da_Drood (8/17/2022)
If i use CC4 to create a character with no stuff bought from the market store, just a character created with the software i already bought (and for which i already spent over 1k € to get skingen, hair builder, anatomy pack and other cool addons back when there was the last sales for CC3/Iclone7 before CC4/Iclone8 came out), and create all the clothing/accessories in Blender, do i still have to pay for a license if i want to use that character in a Unity game?
The extended license is required for some categories you purchase from the Reallusion marketplace. (Hair, Clothes, Gloves, etc.) For example, if you buy a hair from the market and use it commercially in applications or games, you need an extended license of this hair. There will be no problems with products that you produce yourself or other than the extended license.
Saeder (8/19/2022)
What is the limit for you, 1 is already considered a mass distribution ? I understand that creating a AAA game with these CC4 characters requires a mass distribution license, but for small games between friends or small community, where do you place the limit (if there is a limit)
If I'm not mistaken, selling a game for commercial purposes qualifies as mass distribution. I don't think the quantity sold here matters. However, I don't think it would be a problem if you just create a private link to your friends (not for commercial purposes) and play among yourselves.
Of course, Peter can give more precise information on this subject. I interpreted it as I understood from the license.
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Sophus
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Currently freeware games don't need the extended license. Commercial games need the extended license.
But of course it would be very welcomed, if individual developers who make and release games by themselves, could just use the standard license for commercial games and applications. The extended license would then only be required for companies. Maybe Reallusion could change the license in this way.
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Saeder (8/19/2022)
Peter (RL) (8/16/2022) The Extended License is for content that is used in mass distributed commercial games or applications. If your games are free then an Extended License won't be required.
Hello, simple question, what do you mean by ' mass distributed commercial games or applications'. for example: - If I create a small game, with a CC4 character and some friends buy it from me (approximately 20 friends) it is a mass distribution?
- If I create a Patreon page ( or ... ... ) for a game with a CC4 character, and a few people donate money each month, it is a mass distribution?
- If I create a game with a CC4 character, put it on Steam and it is sold to 10 copies, it is a mass distribution?
What is the limit for you, 1 is already considered a mass distribution ? I understand that creating a AAA game with these CC4 characters requires a mass distribution license, but for small games between friends or small community, where do you place the limit (if there is a limit)
Merci
That was my point exactly. Mass distribution just mean the plaftorm you are using to distribute your game can attract 1 person or 1 million. That you sold 1 copy or 1000 is the same result: you would need extended license for the store bought items that requires it.
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imagination304_023567
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In fact, in the end, all users must buy extended license for exporting cloth models bought in the reallusion store. No one can escape. Please don't lie to yourself.
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Peter (RL)
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Peter (RL)
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Saeder (8/19/2022)
- If I create a small game, with a CC4 character and some friends buy it from me (approximately 20 friends) it is a mass distribution?
- If I create a Patreon page ( or ... ... ) for a game with a CC4 character, and a few people donate money each month, it is a mass distribution?
- If I create a game with a CC4 character, put it on Steam and it is sold to 10 copies, it is a mass distribution?
All of the examples you give would be classed as Mass Distribution and require an Extended License for any CC Component content used.
Basically any game that is supplied to multiple people who have paid money, either directly or indirectly, would need an Extended License.
Peter Forum Administrator www.reallusion.com
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bparnell
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Hi Peter, Could you or someone from Reallusion clarify what licenses are in the "Character Creator 4 Digital Human Essential Bundle + Hair and Beard Builder". It's incredibly confusing trying to understand what exactly is being purchased from a licensing standpoint. Thanks!
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Peter (RL)
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Peter (RL)
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bparnell (8/25/2022) Hi Peter, Could you or someone from Reallusion clarify what licenses are in the "Character Creator 4 Digital Human Essential Bundle + Hair and Beard Builder". It's incredibly confusing trying to understand what exactly is being purchased from a licensing standpoint. Thanks!
Hi... The content included in the Character Creator 4 Digital Human Essential Bundle all have an Extended License. This means that the content can be used in commercial games and applications. The Hair & Beard Builder Combo pack comes in two versions. Standard License and Extended License. The Standard License version comes with the special combo bundle above, so If you plan to use the hair and beards in commercial games or applications then you will need to purchase the Extended License version separately. Alternatively you can contact our Customer Support department using the form below who can give you the combo price for the whole package. https://www.reallusion.com/CustomerSupport/UserEx/QForm.html
Peter Forum Administrator www.reallusion.com
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bparnell
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Thanks Peter. This is great to know, and hopefully Reallusion can make this more clear in the bundling process. I've reached out with the link you gave but the ticket system is giving an error whenever I try to send the message to support. SO I sent an email to sales@ so hopefully someone can assist me so I can pay for these products. Thanks again
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ValiantShadow
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I’m just catching up on all this now, and it’s incredibly frustrating. It was already ridiculous enough, when there was only a small discount available, upgrading from CC3 and Iclone 7 to the new versions. This is next level.
I only just noticed this licensing change today. I am incredibly angry, to be honest.
There is literally no point in using your software for video games anymore. These costs are downright predatory.
Sorry, but considering how expensive your software is to begin with, I personally don’t think there’s any need for multiple licenses at all. You don’t need to be nickel and diming your customers this badly. It’s ridiculous. Just have people pay one fee, one time, for your products, and let them use the thing they paid for as they wish.
This is pure greed, and I imagine it’s going to backfire horribly.
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