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capt.force
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capt.force
Posted 3 Years Ago
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I’m also glad people are taking notice of this because I was scratching my head as well. I already paid THOUSANDS of dollars for their content and now they’re charging more for “the privilege” of using it in games. Feels like you’re really cutting out a smaller market of your customers.
Edit: And just for kicks, on some stuff they are offering a DISCOUNT on standard licensing stuff while most people if I'm reading that right, will need the extended license anyway so it's still just trying to push people to pay more for fear of the lawyer's call. I also love how it says in the store page for commercial projects for the standard, though who is going to use $20 digital pants on just one character? That's insane.
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Drew of Donuts
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Drew of Donuts
Posted 3 Years Ago
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Thank god I'm in the return window for CC and didn't pull the trigger on a large amount of content that's in my cart (from $300 at standard to over $1,000). The extended licensing cost is absurd for indie game development. I just spent $80 on some stupid peasant clothing with a standard useless license that I know I cannot return.
I've shied away from Reallusion for a while due to their convoluted pricing, and I should have continued to do so.
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ValiantShadow
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ValiantShadow
Posted 3 Years Ago
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I’m just glad that more people seem to finally be noticing. I don’t think that many people were actually aware of what they were doing. I have to assume that, because I really don’t believe there would be so little talk about it on the forums otherwise. But there seems to be growing chatter about it now, thankfully.
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imagination304_023567
Posted 3 Years Ago
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"Check out the MCS bundle on Daz3d" This one is more affordable for indie !
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daithi
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daithi
Posted 3 Years Ago
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Last Active: 3 Years Ago
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I was wondering if it was greed, or financial trouble. The whole paying for reviews on the content store is pretty dubious too.
Check out the MCS bundle on Daz3d. You'll have to import the clothes but there's a ton of stuff in there. It works on Unity, but you have to import and export through Blender. It takes a lot of time, but it's easy enough, even if you aren't familiar with Blender. There's also Tafi now, and they're selling stuff on Unity Asset Store.
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MixThaicred
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MixThaicred
Posted 3 Years Ago
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Last Active: 3 Years Ago
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I am not sure what is wrong with reallusion but it seems like they have become way too greedy and this is affecting indie game developers. Is not fair to charge 3 times the price for stuff in the content store or marketplaces just to be able to use what you bought. is like reallusion doesnt care about anything but money. If you use it with their products is fine but if you are a game developer it hurts your pocket. specially if your game fails and doesnt produce any kind of money.
Game developing is a risk that this companies do not take so why do they feel the need to overprice stuff? for example a bundle that may cost 299$ even with discount nows become 900$ if you want to use the limited content on your game.... Is this some kind of joke? who thought this was a good thing? I hated the interactive license from Daz3d but now that seems cheaper than buying stuff in content store. paying 60-100$ for a piece of cloth which is the price of a custom set created on Fiverr?
I think is time to move on from reallusion as it has become not friendly to the indie community. the prices are OUTRAGEOUS. I paid over 300$ for CC4 and now I am not able to use it because they want MORE money? not happening.
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daithi
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daithi
Posted 3 Years Ago
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Last Active: 3 Years Ago
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I didn't realise that the extended license was required for clothing - I thought it was just for a new type of clothing. This is terrible for small indie developers.
I've spent quite a lot on software, plugins and content and thankfully have most of the assets required for my current game. I really like reallusion software, and recommended it to quite a few people, but suddenly increasing the cost of assets threefold will push a lot of smaller developers to alternative software and sourcing of content. I've avoided purchasing CC4 as a result and suspect a lot of developers, myself included, will be having a long hard think about whether to use CC for future projects. I hope the company's management will consider a small studio pricing setup.
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ValiantShadow
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ValiantShadow
Posted 3 Years Ago
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I’m just catching up on all this now, and it’s incredibly frustrating. It was already ridiculous enough, when there was only a small discount available, upgrading from CC3 and Iclone 7 to the new versions. This is next level.
I only just noticed this licensing change today. I am incredibly angry, to be honest.
There is literally no point in using your software for video games anymore. These costs are downright predatory.
Sorry, but considering how expensive your software is to begin with, I personally don’t think there’s any need for multiple licenses at all. You don’t need to be nickel and diming your customers this badly. It’s ridiculous. Just have people pay one fee, one time, for your products, and let them use the thing they paid for as they wish.
This is pure greed, and I imagine it’s going to backfire horribly.
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bparnell
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bparnell
Posted 3 Years Ago
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Last Active: 2 Years Ago
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Thanks Peter. This is great to know, and hopefully Reallusion can make this more clear in the bundling process. I've reached out with the link you gave but the ticket system is giving an error whenever I try to send the message to support. SO I sent an email to sales@ so hopefully someone can assist me so I can pay for these products. Thanks again
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Peter (RL)
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Peter (RL)
Posted 3 Years Ago
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bparnell (8/25/2022) Hi Peter, Could you or someone from Reallusion clarify what licenses are in the "Character Creator 4 Digital Human Essential Bundle + Hair and Beard Builder". It's incredibly confusing trying to understand what exactly is being purchased from a licensing standpoint. Thanks!
Hi... The content included in the Character Creator 4 Digital Human Essential Bundle all have an Extended License. This means that the content can be used in commercial games and applications. The Hair & Beard Builder Combo pack comes in two versions. Standard License and Extended License. The Standard License version comes with the special combo bundle above, so If you plan to use the hair and beards in commercial games or applications then you will need to purchase the Extended License version separately. Alternatively you can contact our Customer Support department using the form below who can give you the combo price for the whole package. https://www.reallusion.com/CustomerSupport/UserEx/QForm.html
Peter Forum Administrator www.reallusion.com
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