I tried so many many hours following the example from the manual, replicating the example but impossible it feels.

Can you show what you came up with and the timeline for it? Even it's *bad*...

Hi.

Sure I can do this later, when I have the time to show you.

Just a screenshot of the time line and a video uploaded to youtube?

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Here is my YouTube video of my attempt to replicate RL´s Karate Kid Test.



Printscreen of the timeline:

75% of original size (was 671x19) - Click to enlarge

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lol, sorry (could not resist) :w00t:

First of all, take a look at the initial Chucks' pose. Unless you have iron toes, you would never be able to pull this stunt.
So before you begin moving forward animating next pose, make sure the current pose looks natural. This would save you a lot of trouble up ahead.
Rest his right foot firmly on the ground without bending toe, move torso slightly forward.
Switch to Orthogonal camera view. Use A, S, D, F, G keys to observe an avatar from all sides. Again, make sure all bones are posed natural, specially torso.
On the next key begin with torso. Move it forward until his right leg is almost straight. But do NOT overstretch! This would cause feet sliding.
Next, move his left feet into position, rotate until parallel to the ground and level it by Z. Do not push too much to the ground.
When Foot contact is enabled, pushing it down too much would deform torso.
Observe from all sides and workout upper body and arms (I would use FK mode for upper body as it does not affect lower parts).
Note: Small feet sliding would still occur. Try fixing it in between keys, but ONLY after you settled and happy with the last key pose.

I am working on a motion ruler tool, which would help in fixing feet slide and in general assist in making precise walk loops, etc... Will post the tool as I am done with it.

LOL! ha ha... no worries at all I am not offended.

Thanks for the help and reply, will try this next and see:-)

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Hi again.

My other problem is actually how to get him into such a pose from the manual example. I try using Human IK and FK but struggle to get a pose done and using so much much time....

I will try your explanation now, I am spending some time right now to learn again:-)

Practice practice practice, its the only thing to make things happen and to help me understand, but feels so overwhelming when you are a beginner. Thats not only in 3D animation but with everything in life. I feel learning chess was much easier because the game of chess has CLEAR & CHRONOLOGICAL learning paths, 3D animation does not have this. Rampa told me that using the RL manual and especially character animation first is a really good way to try learning and using the forum and ask for advice. This was his way of learning, so I will try to do the same. Also, I have just got my Richard Williams The Animator's Survival Kit, so I will use this for trying to learn from the ancient masters of animation. I was so amazed the first time I saw Roger Rabbit in the cinema!

A ruler animation helper tool? So that you use an image layer to help you see if feet are sliding?

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By the way, pose bones naturally, what is meant by this? In the RL manual example, I see in the starting pose he has slightly twisted torso to one side, and some head rotation, right? Or should I just pose full body straight?

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By the way, pose bones naturally, what is meant by this? In the RL manual example, I see in the starting pose he has slightly twisted torso to one side, and some head rotation, right? Or should I just pose full body straight?

Well, it's easy. Print a screenshot of the pose, stand in front of the mirror and try mimic it. RL pose has right foot straight on the ground, bent slightly outward (giving more support to the body weight) and different knee bent angle (though it is also might be questionable).
Your pose on the other hand is impossible to take by any human being. It is against the laws of gravity and physics.
But that is not the main problem. Feet slide I see on your video, is not even a feet slide perse. It's more like some abnormality, like when you push a foot too much to the ground while foot contact is enabled.
When foot contact is enabled you have to be very careful while placing foot on the ground (I mentioned it in previous post). A quick check is to disable Foot contact for a moment and see if the feet(foot) dive(s) deep into the ground.

It also could be one of those iClone bugs some people reported, where limbs might go into uncontrollable spin between poses, where they are not supposed too.  
In which case just delete the clip and start over.

And do not play with reach effectors yet (replying to the other thread). Try to animate and gain confidence with limbs animation first.

Animation ruler helper is here: https://forum.reallusion.com/442990/3D-Motion-Ruler-Boxes

I've just come across this interesting sound design package (VST/AU/AXX) that allows you to trigger/mod sounds by using your voice (or any recorded sound).
This is a Foley like library but the triggering/mising is unique and provides various results compared to just key presses.
You can even easily add your own sound libraries!

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I am seriously considering this and just have to convince myself it is worth it.
Anybody using this that can provide feedback on it?

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There is also a great voice changer software package Dehumanizer on sale for less than 2 days now.

Krotos also has something similar to Walker called Weaponizer.

Jeff



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