Hi Peter.
That's how I've always understood that. Being in the model making game for a few years now I have see instances where a creator of a new model which was identical to another model maker's one get accused of plagiarism.

I always take a series of development screenshots when I create my models, and always suggest that this is a good way of proving that the model you create is indeed your own.

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Bob

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Hi Bob,

Developer B certainly wouldn't be committing plagiarism if he created all the content himself. You could have 100 different Huey helicopters for sale in the Marketplace as long as each seller created all the content themselves.

However it would be plagiarism if Developer B took Developer A's mesh or textures and used them for their model. Taking someone else's hard work and then making a few changes does not make the new model your own.

                                                                

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I would say not ! otherwise there would only be 1 medieval set or ruins set. Why would Developer A have any copyright on the Huey anyway.

As far as I remember this issue the term "plagiarism" was maybe mis used or just nicer than saying theft.





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I am just wonder how this works for say the duplication of work. For example developer "A" might create and publish a Huey helicopter and sell it on the store. Developer "B" might also create and publish a Huey helicopter and wants to sell it in the store as well. Has developer "B" committed plagiarism in duplicating the Huey even though he has created the mesh and textures himself? on the outside both models may look similar. Both developers may have even used the same 3 view drawings to produce the models.
Are accusations of plagiarism or copying going to be hurled at developer "B" for wanting to create and sell a similar item?

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DOH! Thanks for that.



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First paragraph of the EULA.

I have a question. I want to submit a video for a video contest using CTA and some of the default characters. How do I legally obtain permission to use such content?



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Sadly due to this thread descending into name calling, several posts have had to be removed as they have broken the forum rules which can be found HERE.

Apologies to those innocent parties whose posts were made redundant and therefore removed because they were replying to other posts that had to be deleted.

Please can we avoid using personal insults against others. You don't have to agree with each other but please no name calling or further posts may have to be deleted.

Thanks for your understanding.

                                                                

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Sure Pete! You are right. It is good members understand better the EULA.!

Nevertheless I need to clear some facts:

I have not said RL is "calling" plagiarism a Criminall Matter. Neither did I say plagiarism or copyright violations are acceptable or justifiable. My point is: When ANY society starts applying punitive "meassures" when it is a matter of the proper legal procedures, it is wrong!

But "plagiarism" is plagiarism unless Shakespeare or Reallusion have introduced new meanings!

It is, I believe, very important for members to understand, if someone makes a legal claim for plagiarism it will NOT prosper in Penal Court! I must be treated by suit at Civil Court!

If plagiarism is followed by pecuniary benefits then it is when it gets into the Copyright jurisdiction and becomes a Penal matter and not a Civil one.

Clear as fresh water!

I accept also, my absolutely logical and well documented explanations aren't taken seriously or even listened too very often!

I don't really mind because I am used to deal with youngsters which seem to have ALL knowledge, and arguments like mine are not taken just as a product of experience, research, and familiarity with the legal world, but as words to to be distrusted, denied, censored or rejected.

Right?

So excuse me for being explicative although I understand there is no rule against explaining facts of the trade, either, technical, legal, ethical, emotional or engineering related.

I hope no one feels upset by my participation, trying to clear fuzzy and misunderstood concepts!

I write only with the aim of enhancing the iClone community in general and not to awaken antagonism or argumentation in either direction!

Mike

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Hi Mike,

I don't really see anywhere we are calling plagiarism a criminal matter. Be it a criminal or civil matter, and that is debatable if you scan the internet, it is still a serious matter which is the point being made here.

We just want the developer to understand what they can sell legally and the customer to know that buying content from Reallusion is perfectly safe to use in a royalty free enviroment.

As developers that is the most important thing for all of us I think. :)

                                                                

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