@Gary - Glad you got it running better.

When you do shop for a new card (new system?), start with 8GB of VRAM as a good target.  Also iClone does benefit from Nvidia cards, so a GTX 1070 is a minimum recommendation, and a GTX 1080 and up is good advice.

I wish Nvidia had more 12GB and 16GB cards available at "reasonable" prices.  AMD is good ad selling cards with more memory, but some iClone features like Global Illumination (I think that's one) really need Nvidia cards.  And if you ever want to use Iray, you can run if slowly on your CPU or "quickly" on your Nvidia card (AMD cards don't support it, but it will still run, but only on your CPU).

Happy iCloning.  :)

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iClone 7... Character Creator... Substance Designer/Painter... Blender... Audacity...
Desktop (homebuilt) - Windows 10, Ryzen 9 3900x CPU, GTX 1080 GPU (8GB), 32GB RAM, Asus X570 Pro motherboard, 2TB SSD, terabytes of disk space, dual  monitors.
Laptop - Windows 10, MSI GS63VR STEALTH-252, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 (6GB), 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD

@justaviking The scene was taking up 2.2.  Removing all the trees didn't seem to affect it so I deleted everything that was not in the scene including 3 'hidden' avatars and then it finally dropped! I thought if 'hidden' it meant not counted in the render time so decided there must be something wrong or corrupt in the whole project therefore started afresh and it seems to be OK now.  I may have to look at this graphics card issue because you're right; 3GB is not much in the world of iClone etc! Many thanks as I think you cracked it.  

Thanks for the model of your graphics card..  I looked up the specs, and the "3GB" of VRAM concerns me.  How much video memory is your scene using?  You can have iClone tell you, and for more information I recommend "GPU-Z" ("G" for "Graphics").  It's free and will tell you a lot about what your GPU is doing.

If your project exceeds your VRAM size, performance will plummet.  Even though your project isn't "large," the trees and stuff can eat up a surprising amount of memory in a hurry.

If nothing else, a tool like GPU-Z is a good way to rule out potential bottlenecks.

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iClone 7... Character Creator... Substance Designer/Painter... Blender... Audacity...
Desktop (homebuilt) - Windows 10, Ryzen 9 3900x CPU, GTX 1080 GPU (8GB), 32GB RAM, Asus X570 Pro motherboard, 2TB SSD, terabytes of disk space, dual  monitors.
Laptop - Windows 10, MSI GS63VR STEALTH-252, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 (6GB), 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD

@justaviking Graphics card is GeForce GTX 970m. Has worked in the past!!!

Thanks for pointing that out! I was going by the thread - was searching in i7- and didn't notice that it had changed! I find searching the forum extremely difficult with illogical results, a point I think I have raised before. Will try again on correct forum as that might offer the 'switch off' option I was hunting! You have helped me in the past, so thanks for this and I wish you a happy festive season!

@Garry: You may get more responses when posting in the iClone forum. This is for Cartoon Animator.

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What graphics card do you have?  That has a huge impact on iClone performance.

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iClone 7... Character Creator... Substance Designer/Painter... Blender... Audacity...
Desktop (homebuilt) - Windows 10, Ryzen 9 3900x CPU, GTX 1080 GPU (8GB), 32GB RAM, Asus X570 Pro motherboard, 2TB SSD, terabytes of disk space, dual  monitors.
Laptop - Windows 10, MSI GS63VR STEALTH-252, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 (6GB), 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD

Tried my first render since re-installing iC.7 (thanks Peter RL!) and it was so slow I gave up and did a test render of just 34 frames. 40 minutes later it had manged 25 frames. Gave up again! The scene is basic - about 5 trees, snow, 3 avatars in idle mode. There is some light effect, but hell, if you can't do that what is the point! Running, from fresh start, i.e no other programs in background, Windoze 10, Intel Core i7 6700 2.60GHz, 16 RAM. I remember some years back I had a similar issue which involved switching something off but can't find that thread! Annoyed!

2500 frames@3 seconds..., is really super fast on windows.
I will upgrade my mac and try again, if issue still persists,  i will switch to WINDOWS :)

That does seem very slow. I'm not a Mac expert but on Windows a similar project of 2500 frames took me just 3 minutes to render @ 1080p. I would follow the advice of Gary and look into updating your computer and also make sure that you don't have anything else running when you render to video. You could also try dropping to 720p which should help speed up the render process.


                                                                

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