Was wondering if anyone can anyone help with what's going to be my biggest hurdle by far.....
I've seen results of 'planar tracking' where a simple 'rectangle' on the side of a building (a moving shot), is replaced with say a 'sign' (lettering).
But what I'm wanting to achieve involves not just a static sign, but rather an actor's motion.
Imagine this:
An actor (real person), goes through the 'motion' of 'climbing' a narrow ladder. (This could be shot against blue screen).
That captured footage is then somehow 'tracked' to match an iClone model of a narrow ladder (in this case rising up the side of a circus 'king-pole').
Both shots are 'moving' - yet the composite needs to be convincing (as though the actor *really is* climbing that pole [model]).
I'm uncertain of the best way to go about this, and I'm sure it's the most difficult thing I'm likely to need for my project.....
I realize some would suggest animating an avatar to do the actual climb, but I have reasons for needing a 'real' human.
Any suggestions?? .... or links to videos?? (I'm *hoping* it can be achieved with something I already use). Thanx
Steve

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Would the camera be moving with the actor?

As long as the perspective doesn't change, you could place the actor on a plane (you would need video with alpha) and tweak the plane moving upward along your ladder, such that the upward movement looks plausible. (This is my "fudging" approach of solving problems...) 

Fortunately, we have real compositing gurus among us, which hopefully will have a better answer.

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@animagic .... The actual 'move' is yet to be finalized. *IF* there was a 'sure fire' approach to this, I'd use a dramatic 'fly-by' or 'move around' (for maximum impact).
Failing that, I could perhaps 'fudge' the shot by limiting the camera move. The easiest way would be to use 'static' shots - which would be as simple as chroma-keying.
But I'm hoping for the dynamic first option - if possible. (I could use it in other ways in the same project) ...... thanks for your thoughts - I may have to go that way - but still *hoping* ....
I'm open to *any* suggestions really ....

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Having just done a composite shot I would recommend using a path for your camera. It's pretty difficult to match up the composite unless you do.
[Got burned through experience  ] Not sure what to say about the other. Billboard would be my first test but....

pete 



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Pete ... I'm just trying to understand your suggestion ..... I'm a tad confused (nothing new), but I'll keep re-reading until it becomes clear .... be patient with me .....

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Yeah, I don't think I understood your issue as well as I first thought sorry.

pete



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No - it's valid Pete - I'm getting 'ideas' from what you've said - even if not exactly what you intended - I'm gathering 'pieces' of this ..... it's a 3D puzzle in my mind - every bit helps .....   so thanks ....

I'm thinking there's got to be a way to use some sort of 'reference' markers on both the actor's position as well as the iClone camera position.
Then somehow matching them up .....

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This a complex thing you are trying to do, and it can be hard to explain, why don't you do a small animatic (rough animation Just to illustrate things) so we can see how you intend to move the camera and how you will be framing things, because depending on the camera movement you could try a method like animagic suggested, cause it could be easily solved with a plane with alpha video and some transform keys or you might need to do some camera tracking or whatever but it will be hard to tell unless we actually see what you are trying to accomplish

Yeah ... OK raxel .... I'll try to put something visual together to help ....

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