I was trying to make an accurate looking avatar of this person using the built in tools in iClone.
![](https://forum.reallusion.com/Uploads/Images/30f77522-d5c1-4fb4-b433-e762.jpg)
i had a hard time getting it right, and it was impossible to adjust the character's body in a naturalistic way...
![](https://forum.reallusion.com/Uploads/Images/2fb8c893-64ab-4261-8e8f-34b2.png)
I decided to try the character in evolver.... i estimated the character would cost $20 USD... the evolver process was A LOT EASIER.... I ended up with a character that looked good enough and then tweaked the evolver character further using the iClone tools.
![](https://forum.reallusion.com/Uploads/Images/ce69c98b-4246-42f9-8cf9-4f58.jpg)
I'm happier with the evolver character. For $20 it's a bit expensive, $10 would be a sweet price. The body type was also easier to adjust by using the evolver templates:
![](https://forum.reallusion.com/Uploads/Images/62197c01-b4b3-4bdd-9768-47f5.jpg)
Unfortuntately, after saving the evolver character in iclone as an iClone character, I now CANNOT USE THE FACIAL DETAIL CONTROL POINTS TO FURTHER MODIFY THE FACE. When I use the control points of the face, the EYEBALLS DISAPPEAR! And the eyes cannot be reset or changed without reloading the character. That sucks!