Perhaps some long term users have no interest in Game production but as a new user that started using Iclone only 18 months ago, I have a lot of interest in both VR and Game productions. I can't wait to have the CC3 standalone version.  This is really an exciting time!   :)




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Character Creator 3 is primarily positioned as a 3D Character creation pipeline for Animation, Game, AR & VR. You can create movies or training videos containing the characters you create, plus use them in games or other applications. You can also create content to be sold in the Reallusion Marketplace and Content Store. Selling content outside of the Reallusion stores is currently not permitted.


                                                                

Peter
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Very disappointing to see a comment like that Gerry. I can honestly say that no one from RL has ever put constraints on me to tow the line as you call it. There are of course restrictions on when news can be revealed but my replies and comments are 100% my own and no one tells me what I can or can't say.


                                                                

Peter
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Hi Guys,

It's important to remember that Character Creator 3 Pipeline is a standalone version. Of course it is great for generating characters for iClone, but it can also be used to generate characters which will be exported directly to game engines and other software without ever stepping foot in iClone.

Whatever the intended purpose, you will want to see how the character will look under certain atmospheric conditions and Iray rendering in CC3 allows you to do that. There is the option to render a still image with the built in engine just like in iClone, but Iray really allows you to see how great the character will look before you send it on it's merry way to its next destination be that iClone or any other software.


                                                                

Peter
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I've been trying to clarify this myself  - I thought it would be possible to create characters for games for other people to buy in say the Unity asset store but could do with official confirmation 

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Providing you have Crazytalk 8 Pipeline you can export 3D heads that can be used in Character Creator 3. You won't need iClone 7 to be able to do this. :)


                                                                

Peter
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Thanks for the reply, Peter.

So just to confirm I wouldn't need to buy iClone 7 to use Character Creator 3 and Crazy Talk 8 with each other?

Apologies if I seem confused, I'm fairly new to Reallusion products. 

Based on the (RL) crew comments regarding CC 3 at the moment it would appear that the software is being promoted as a Creation Studio for Game asset producers wishing to sell their fully animated characters to one and all - and make no mistake about it, once the asset is in FBX format it will be sold to the highest bidder well away from any RL controlled store. The ability to present the asset posed in a clinically clean environment, devoid of any semblance of natural surroundings, isn't likely to impress the masses for ever - try and sell a bloody, dirty combat proved soldier standing in something that resembles an urban Livingroom, or worse a Doctors Surgery. :w00t:

As already stated by others, I consider Character Creator to be simply a support element of iClone to create Characters for use in animation - and not for producing pretty pictures. Pretty pictures include, but are not limited to, Trees, Water, Terrains and VFX.

I fully understand the constraints placed on the (RL) crew, tow the line or draw the Dole(1), but it has to be clear that long time iClone users have no interest in Game Production.

(1) Draw the Dole = receive unemployment benefit   


Gerry

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I would say, what would marketing do? Let's say you have a feature list that spanks DAZ. You look at it and say, "OK, what am I missing? Name one thing they have that we don't have. Hey, what about this? There's almost no development time needed, and the users pay for it anyway. What harm can it do?"



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I have used Daz for years and never have I used it to make a still picture. My primary reason for using Daz is to create characters and then send them to iClone to animate.  I want the best cinematic that I can get. Compared to iClone Daz is hard to lip sync and animate characters. It also has a hard time importing avatars back into Daz for rendering. At least I have not figured out a way to do it.

Craig