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Debate on File *Formats* for Editing ...

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You can download the free Resolve here. The public beta forum is here, if you wish to see what testers are reporting.

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It is a public beta testing phase that some companies use to get their product tested on a very wide selection of work environments, and there are no sign up charges, or costs for the software. Most, if not all, public betas have a "can not be used after" date stamp meaning that either the tester purchases a full version - or in the case of Resolve downloads and uses the latest free final release version.  


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Mark mentioned 2 things in his post. Use the Avid codecs and the free Resolve 15 - be aware that this is still in public beta testing and may/is a little buggy in some areas. I do all of my editing using image sequences where possible, the rest is mostly camera footage. The Avid DNxHD and above codecs are very, very good, but can only be played back on a system having them installed on it - they are also almost finished doing the transition away fromm QuickTime on the PC side due to the lack of Apple support for the software. On the Mac side it's different as QT is still supported, and even there they use mostly ProRes for encoding, it can be played back on a PC, but there are no really good 3rd party encoders available that a "Pro" would/could use.

As already mentioned image sequences are the best way to render out of iClone. you could use mpg4 files as proxies for external effects creation and then use the image sequence with the effect tracks in a final comp.


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What does 'free public beta' mean?

https://www.creativebloq.com/news/davinci-resolve-15-software-released-as-a-free-beta


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Mark (illusionLAB) ... what did you say was free? ... not 
DaVinci Resolve 15 ?


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@Mark .... Yes - what you say makes sense. I've got to get "Video" (and 'codecs') out of my brain when it comes to this work in NLEs.
Seems that the good old 'individual' frames (like in Cine film) or 'flip book' animation, is the way to think.
Yes - well the audio's done and dusted - but I guess it might be an idea to place it inside iClone as a reference for timing.
The clown that 'sings' (mimes) to the finished audio will be *a real actor for the C/Us* and *an avatar for the distant shots*.
I haven't the experience for gaining 'realistic' C/U performances with an avatar.
So - yeah - still a good idea to have a reference audio and do like you say - bring it over to the NLE.... thnx :)


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:w00t:  8 bit files the norm for editing.  Using PNG or TGA sequences are the way to go right up till your 'final output'.  Proxies are a must... I think Vegas calls it "Smart Render".  The industry standard for "offline" editing is AVID's quicktime codec.  Even the "lowest quality" will look almost as good as your original PNG renders, so you're not going to miss anything.  The codecs are free and once installed should just "show up" in your list of options.  As you're in a world of discovery right now... you may want to look at BMD's DaVinci Resolve 15 - I've been using Premiere for eons, but find Resolve much more powerful (now that Fairlight Audio and Fusion in the same software).  Also free.




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As they say .png is the way to go for sure. One beauty is you can render at very high resolution and then render the size you need when you're done in your NLE.

Now if you have an audio track you need to match or reference in you NLE I would also render a .wmv or .mp4 file out of iClone for that. The .png image sequence won't have audio as you know. You can then line everything up in your NLE and lay back in your original audio and of course add to your audio tracks mix  and sweeten.


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I'll do some testing on this Mike - and report back with my findings (in-case useful to others) .... thnx  :)

Mark won't understand me (I can see him shaking his head) - "why is Sonic mucking about with 8 bits" ....


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Ahhhh !!! ..... Yes .... I thought I'd read something about 'proxy' files - smaller versions of the originals ....
I get it - yes make the proxy files in Media Studio, Edit and add FX, then when all is complete let it render the *final* using the original PNG sequence .....
OK. Now, the only thought on that is 'will the proxy files' give me accurate enough detail/definition for dialing in my FX?
Hopefully that's a 'yes' - so that the final render hasn't 'changed' compared to my 'off line edit'....



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