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I could really use a nudge and a little help with what seems to be to be a simple project. But as a new user I am stuck.
I should mention I have been a 2d Photoshop user for over 20 years so while I am a newbie iClone/CC4 user I am not a new user to software.
Situation:
Purchased a rig Cat model off of Sketchfab that is fully rigged. Imported the FBX and the FBX animation files no problem.
I can move him around using the motions that are part of the rigging.
Problem:
I want to have the cat character talk but when I transfer the model from CC4 to iClone 8 and select Animation/Create Script to upload the audio file. Everything is grayed out.
1. Does anyone have any suggests of what to look for to find out where the issue is?
2. Is anyone willing to take a look at the model and see if you can understand what is going on?
I suspect this is something and a bonehead move on my part but you never know.
thanks in advanced.
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As far as I know, the model needs to be compatible (e.g. a CC3+ character) for lip syncing in iClone, so if you buy a model via Sketchfab, I strongly doubt that that is compatible with the requirements of iClone, among other things, because it would need the appropriate blendshapes. iClone apparently recognized this incompatibility and won't let you create a voice script in the first place.

If you need a "cat" to talk, then you should probably look at a compatible model (since animals usually don't talk, realistic models are probably not set up for that; cartoon-look/anthropomorphized animals may work) from one of the Reallusion stores.


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It does not really needs to be a CC3+ character to make it "talk".
If it has a jaw bone where you can open the mouth you can set it more or less open for each vowel.
I did this many times in 3DXChange and when I got it right you can do that within CC4 now...
After this process you can use the simpler way to make it talk with "animation - create script - audio file".
Sure this will be rudimentary and acculips will not work on this.

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Talking animals is one of the few areas where Daz Studio beats Iclone.





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You may look at this package of talking dog and cat converted to humanoids featuring an extended face profile compatible with Acculips.
(6 motions are included with each animals)
https://marketplace.reallusion.com/takling-cat-and-dog




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Actually while Daz models CAN talk "out of the box" those same models can be easily used in iClone with Acculips:






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I am still a user of IC7/3DX7 pipeline and I am surprised that some new version of the “expression  editor” toolset did not make it into Iclone 8 or CC4 for newbies ,like the OP, who can no longer  get access to 3DX7 pipeline.
It limits the appeal of being able to harvest Characters ,from completely outside the Reallusion content eco system, if you can’t rig the faces for full auto lipsinc & facial mocap 
The way I can with Blender with Faceit or Maya with Advanced skeleton.




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I am still a user of IC7/3DX7 pipeline and I am surprised that some new version of the “expression  editor” toolset did not make it into Iclone 8 or CC4 for newbies ,like the OP, who can no longer  get access to 3DX7 pipeline.

Well, CC4 has Expression Editor, which is even more advanced than 3DX has.
Moreover, you may convert most non-human animals into humanoid along with any motion files they have and then build a face profile either from available blendshapes (like DAZ), or make your own.




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Well, CC4 has Expression Editor, which is even more advanced than 3DX has.
Moreover, you may convert most non-human animals into humanoid along with any motion files they have and then build a face profile either from available blendshapes (like DAZ), or make your own.Moreover, you may convert most non-human animals into humanoid along with any motion files they have and then build a face profile either from available blendshapes (like DAZ), or make your own.
You know I had a vague memory of seeing such a feature during the many Iclone 8/CC4 promo videos after its release.
Perhaps someone can hunt down a video of the process for the OP to use with his cat model.



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Darn, I was hoping this was not the case.
So this brings up the question...
1. If you have an FBX Rigged model that will import into iClone
 - Then what would you need to do to animate the cat to talk?
 - What is confusing is i see all kinds of non humoids that can talk.
 - What this was a model I created in Blender, wouldn't it be the same?
 - He is fullly rigged and can run, jump, yawn, etc.




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