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TonyDPrime
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TonyDPrime
Posted 4 Years Ago
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Anyone interested, this page gives detail and has a comparison chart on the content policy: https://www.reallusion.com/license/content.html
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yepkoo
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yepkoo
Posted 4 Years Ago
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I think this description is written so that old customers who will buy content from the store are not confused. As far as I understand, the names of the licenses corresponding to the old licenses are specified. In other words, he says, if the iContent license was sufficient for you before, you should now choose the standard license, which has the same rights as the iContent license when purchasing content. It does not say that the licenses of those who purchased products with the iContent license will be upgraded to the standard license. Otherwise @animagic and many others wouldn't pay to upgrade their content license to a standard license. Because I saw their posts on the forum stating that they paid license upgrade fees on different topics.
Also, if you have purchased hair, clothing, etc. CC components with export license before, they must be automatically upgraded to extended license. Because the purpose of those who buy content with the export license option was to use this content in the development of a game or application. Therefore, upgrading export licenses to extended license should have been a right. However, those who purchased content with the iContent license option in the past already knew that the content they purchased would not be exported.So I don't think iContent licenses will be automatically upgraded to standard license (Formerly export license).
Of course this is just my opinion.
Peter can give a clearer answer on this.
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3dSphinx
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3dSphinx
Posted 4 Years Ago
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That is what I was referring to but the legacy hair I got from reviewing my account was changed to extended before it said Standard. So it's moot now.
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3dSphinx
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3dSphinx
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yepkoo
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yepkoo
Posted 4 Years Ago
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If I'm not mistaken, iContent licenses were not upgraded to standard license. I know that the products that you purchased with an export license and that do not have an extended license option (such as Prop, Animation) have been renamed to standard licenses.
Therefore, those who own iContent content must pay to upgrade that content to the standard license.
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3dSphinx
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3dSphinx
Posted 4 Years Ago
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@animagic
I only say that because every other purchase of export was upgraded to extended. And RL reasoning was to not be overloaded with mass distribution request which is understandable. I was just curious what made legacy content exempt. Ex. My hair builder Export license was switched to Extended License.
But any legacy content with export license or icontent license from my understanding of the email was made to Standard.
But being that I think my legacy stuff I purchased was motions the only difference is I coughed up more money to have the same license as a person that paid the cheaper icontent price.
For example Movie Set Vol 2 I paid $30 to be able to export and a icontent purchaser would had to pay let's say half $15. But now we both have the same license rights but I paid more. That is why I word it as a downgrade. Because I have the same license now as someone that paid less for the lower license.
Now if icontent licensees paid the same amount as export licensees I couldn't say anything. It's balanced. However that wasn't the case.
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animagic
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animagic
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SugarMoxie (11/11/2022)
For clarification I wasn't speaking about upgrades I was speaking of legacy content that people paid the export license cost (now called extended license) in the email said it would be made the standard (use to be icontent). So the license purchased was downgraded for legacy content..I think you are mistaken. The export license never was equivalent to an extended license. The standard and export licenses are equivalent. The export license in itself did not allow you to use content in a game; this always required a Mass Distribution License. So in that sense you can not state that the license for legacy content was downgraded. What you can quibble about is that Mass Distribution used to be free (after permission from RL), whereas there is now a cost associated with it in the form of the extended license costs.
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3dSphinx
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3dSphinx
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ApplebiteMedia (11/10/2022)
SugarMoxie (10/17/2022)
They change our license but I doubt they will be giving export license people credit for their purchase difference between export and icontent.I think we all get bitten by this in some form or another.... Buy a game at full price and a week or two later it's on sale for a third of what you paid.... Hell... Vegas Video came out with their new version a day outside my return period of the version I just purchased. All they offered was the upgrade price which was another 285.00 on top of the 499.00 I paid 31 days prior. I purchased all the Reallusion add-ons for CC3 and iClone7.... I still got hit with an upgrade price around 500.00 (iClone, I was able to spend enough to get CC4 free... the cheaper one LOL). Why? some were now included with the software and not add-ons. But did they improve along with the main program? or just the add-on added to the program as it was. I have not used them enough to know. Hell... 3D Exchange... all that money and I never understood how to really use it LMAO. So that was a little high for an "upgrade" price IMO. It's good software, it works well, you don't rent it monthly/yearly, is it perfect? What is? (besides me LMAO). The new license seems fine IMO...then again I am not a big production studio, I have made one little short in the past 2 years.... I suppose that if I become big enough or maybe my characters get picked up by a studio then I will worry about it. Then again, if it did become a problem, I would just recreate them from scratch in Blender... I have been learning the build process along with the Reallusion software, starting to learn the rigging as I am posing the CC4 characters I am importing... I will learn the animation part as well as the rest. Always have a back up plan ;) And then again... if I am making money I have no problem paying a royalty. No different than UNREAL... Use for free and they take a percentage of sales up to a specified cap. Except we pay for this software LOL. For clarification I wasn't speaking about upgrades I was speaking of legacy content that people paid the export license cost (now called extended license) in the email said it would be made the standard (use to be icontent). So the license purchased was downgraded for legacy content. So basically your Vegas software you just bought was the current version at the time of purchase. But then they come back to you and say they going to change you to a older version license versus what you paid is the correct anology. So not an upgrade but downgrade. But then I have come to the resolution that whatever store AI they have watching what we do is hella good. (It must have a tag on me as a cheap skate...because it perfectly time sending me discounts) It knows how to get me. I be cursing RL as I swipe my card. 😐 Plus I realized the majority of legacy stuff I bought was motions so it didn't matter.
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Peter (RL)
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Peter (RL)
Posted 4 Years Ago
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ApplebiteMedia (11/10/2022)
It's good software, it works well, you don't rent it monthly/yearly, is it perfect? What is? (besides me LMAO). The new license seems fine IMO...then again I am not a big production studio, I have made one little short in the past 2 years.... I suppose that if I become big enough or maybe my characters get picked up by a studio then I will worry about it. Then again, if it did become a problem, I would just recreate them from scratch in Blender... I have been learning the build process along with the Reallusion software, starting to learn the rigging as I am posing the CC4 characters I am importing... I will learn the animation part as well as the rest. Always have a back up plan ;) And then again... if I am making money I have no problem paying a royalty. No different than UNREAL... Use for free and they take a percentage of sales up to a specified cap. Except we pay for this software LOL. If you are using our software to make videos/movies, then the new extended license policy does not apply. All our content is Royalty Free for use in video form. So, if you end up making a commercial movie which makes millions, you will not have to pay Reallusion anything in royalty fees (although a mention in the credits would be appreciated).
Peter
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Peter (RL)
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Peter (RL)
Posted 4 Years Ago
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wildspaceace (11/2/2022)
It seems we have two different answers from two different sources associated with Reallusion. Who is the final arbiter of this inquiry, Reallusion support or Peter (RL)?
Unfortunately, this was a misunderstanding by Support which has now been corrected. The information I have given here on the forum and in the table below is correct. https://www.reallusion.com/license/content.html
Peter
Forum Administrator www.reallusion.com
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