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CC3 to CC4 "Upgrade"

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calypsodevelopmentlv (2/6/2024)
I bought character creator and many of the upgrades when 3 first came on scene. It's like are you serious about the price of 4! 200 more then I originally paid for 3, that is a joke! It's really sad when a company doesn't support the people who support it! These guys basically took a single program and broke it down into marketable pieces, and then just keep charging you for every new piece that is just part of one comprehensive application. 

You get years of updates for free during a major release cycle of both iClone and Character Creator, where other companies would charge you yearly for minimal improvements. It baffles me that people seem to think that software should be sold for a pittance, forgetting that there are hardworking developers to be paid.


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I bought character creator and many of the upgrades when 3 first came on scene. It's like are you serious about the price of 4! 200 more then I originally paid for 3, that is a joke!
I think Reallusion offers a good value for those who wish to remain entirely inside the Reallusion ecosystem.

However you have 3D character animation alternative but you need to decide if migrating to another 3d Character eco system  will provide the value you particularly need/want.
I personally have chosen to forego IC8/CC4and remain on IC7/CC3 pipeline with 3DX pipeline and the curve editor.

Daz studio is free but is useless as it has no functional human IK system.


Poser at $250 has a rudimentary IK system but an ancient Character animation toolset not effectively updated since the late 1990’s
and a pathetically bad & poorly supported Character & content ecosystem.


 
I have Blender (with third party rigging & character animation addons)
and more recently Autodesk Maya.


At $1800 per year obviously Maya is not an attractive option for most individuals.


However Blender ,with the auto rig pro addon $40
animation layers as addon $29
and the Faceit(face rigging) addon  $78 
and you have a far superior character animation
CUSTOM RIGGING and rendering tool than Iclone 8 for under $150 


And you can still use the FREE Blender pipeline tool
to bring your “old” CC3 figures and any "transformed" Daz figure from Genesis 1-8 into blender via CC3 pipeline.




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calypsodevelopmentlv (2/6/2024)
I bought character creator and many of the upgrades when 3 first came on scene. It's like are you serious about the price of 4! 200 more then I originally paid for 3, that is a joke! It's really sad when a company doesn't support the people who support it! These guys basically took a single program and broke it down into marketable pieces, and then just keep charging you for every new piece that is just part of one comprehensive application. 


While it might seem CC4 is expensive, you do have to take into account the powerful new features that have been added since CC3. For example, CC4 now includes the import and export features of 3DXchange 7 which itself was $500 program. You can now import and rig characters from almost any 3rd party source which wasn't possible at all with CC3.


                                                                

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I bought character creator and many of the upgrades when 3 first came on scene. It's like are you serious about the price of 4! 200 more then I originally paid for 3, that is a joke! It's really sad when a company doesn't support the people who support it! These guys basically took a single program and broke it down into marketable pieces, and then just keep charging you for every new piece that is just part of one comprehensive application. 
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tonyrivera018 (7/29/2023)
I'm finding this to no longer be the case? I can't get skin-gen premium to upgrade from cc3 to cc4, it's just not possible without going in and purchasing. Maybe there's a bug with my account or the Reallusion Hub?


Please try clicking HERE to redeem your free CC4 version of the SkinGen Premium Plugin. If that doesn't work, please contact Customer Support and they will sort it out for you.


                                                                

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I'm finding this to no longer be the case? I can't get skin-gen premium to upgrade from cc3 to cc4, it's just not possible without going in and purchasing. Maybe there's a bug with my account or the Reallusion Hub?
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SeanPollman (8/14/2022)
edit: yep none of those work either, guess I cant use them with the "trial" version of CC4.. not exactly encouraging me to like CC4... 


Obviously there are restrictions if you are using the trial version, but if you purchase CC4 all your existing CC3 plug-ins will be upgraded to the CC4 versions for FREE. You won't have pay again.


                                                                

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SeanPollman (8/13/2022)


The page clearly shows that its $249 to upgrade CC3 to 4, and $499 to upgrade iClone7 to 8. Simple math implies that this is $798





If you purchase them separately yes but upgrading both is $599 as I mentioned previously.

Also you actually got the "simple" math part wrong. $249 + $499 is $748 not $798. :Whistling:


                                                                

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There was a special offer that gave me 30% off, which would have paid for the VAT plus given me 10% of the cost, still in my view too expensive, but at least it's not so bad... 
But sadly the email went to my SPAM folder and I have only just seen it, now that the offer has expired :(

Oh well, maybe another will come again sometime.





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wires (8/14/2022)
SeanPollman (8/13/2022)
Uh why the hell do I have to pay $80 to upgrade Skingen Premium from CC3 to CC4? From what I can tell it doesnt even add any features. I already own the 4in1 pack for CC3, but it doesnt include Skingen Premium CC4.. this damn company... Maybe if you didnt try to milk your current customers so much, your total customer volume would grow. 


The upgrades are free for previous owners as stated in this FAQ answer:cool:


Well thats good at least. I was able to upgrade some of the addons a while ago, but not Skingen Premium CC4, and in the Trail for CC4, it says I dont have Skingen Premium. 

edit: yep none of those work either, guess I cant use them with the "trial" version of CC4.. not exactly encouraging me to like CC4... 

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