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How can I adjust the tongue for a custom character

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How can I adjust the tongue for a custom character. I mean so that he can lick. There is no option to access to the tongue , only transform and change the shape, but not to adjust lick property 
Any suggestions? 

Character Creator is nice, but not perfect. e.g. why can I not adjust weight on the character or these lick, why am I losing the eye blink if I want to use the accu Lips Ex Plus ?
As Developer, I need also more access to create human creatures,  not only ordinary human.
As soon as the shape is unique, I reach the  limits of CC. The Figure is nice but not perfect adjusted. :doze:


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I see, it is not possible?:ermm:

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Can you record a video or take some screen shots so we can better tell what you're trying to do and what the issue is?

I'm not sure what you mean by losing the eye blink. It's important to keep in mind that CC3 is not animation software.

For the tongue, go to the Modify Tab > Motion Pose Tab > Edit Facial > Select ExPlus_Tongue under the Expression Set drop down menu > Select the lips. Then you can click and hold the left mouse button and move your mouse around to adjust the tongue. There are also some tongue morphs under the Morphs tab > Head > Tongue. You can also use the transform tools and then adjust bones tools under the attributes tab depending on what you're trying to accomplish.

For creatures, you are a bit limited by constraints of the base mesh. But you can push the mesh pretty far, you aren't constrained to the morph "limits", you can either bake a current morph (destructive so I tend to avoid) or you can manually type in a positive or negative number to go past the morph limits.

Adjusting the weight of the characters as in making them fat or skinny? There are morph sliders for that.
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Tongue is just a thingy attached to the head. It does not have anything special. So you can just hide it with opacity and make your own. Make a dozen of morphs in Zbrush (I think it's your app).
You can make one in half an hour... Or there is a tongue prop on the market by Bigboss which has all kind of morphs: https://marketplace.reallusion.com/bb-tongue-prop-with-morphs_190087
Regarding functionality for non-standards, it's coming in CC 4.0 .. I hope. And yes, I hope we can finally custom skin weight the body for once. I've been waiting for it for years now :)




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vidi (8/1/2021)
How can I adjust the tongue for a custom character. I mean so that he can lick. There is no option to access to the tongue , only transform and change the shape, but not to adjust lick property 
Any suggestions? 

Character Creator is nice, but not perfect. e.g. why can I not adjust weight on the character or these lick, why am I losing the eye blink if I want to use the accu Lips Ex Plus ?
As Developer, I need also more access to create human creatures,  not only ordinary human.
As soon as the shape is unique, I reach the  limits of CC. The Figure is nice but not perfect adjusted. :doze:



Greetings Vidi,

I can try to help you. I've done a lot of stylized characters that require adjusting the tongue. If you're trying to get the tongue to operate the same for a stylized/exaggerated character as you would for a regular character, select 'Mouth Open/Close' click on the 'Edit Mesh' of the main character object. You can then use the move/scale/rotate tools to align the tongue to the new character shape's mouth.

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Thank you guys for your notes and suggestions.:kiss:

I think to create an own tongue is a nice solution
So I can make a Creature Tongue with cool moves.
I've also already made custom Teeth, but I thought the tongue was a fix element on the Expression Panel.


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It does not have anything special


Hmm? I l will lose with an extra Tongue accessory the  function for natural  Lip sync e.g.  L is contact with Teeth 
I would really like  to have  access to the Tongue Profile from Face Puppet for adjusting these Morphs for my Character. That's made for normal Human, but not useful for Creatures.  


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vidi (8/5/2021)
It does not have anything special


Hmm? I l will lose with an extra Tongue accessory the  function for natural  Lip sync e.g.  L is contact with Teeth 
I would really like  to have  access to the Tongue Profile from Face Puppet for adjusting these Morphs for my Character. That's made for normal Human, but not useful for Creatures.  


You can adjust the morphs for the tongue in 3DXChange. Each morph can be exported out, shaped, then imported back. Then the facial profile can be saved and applied when needed.
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Why is the CC + FaceProfile not compatible with 3D Xchange?
Why these extra format things, 3dxFacial AnimProfile and ccFacial Profile? Why are the +morphs not in the Avatar, if I send him to xchange?
 
Why is in CC not a Function to create own FacialProfile?

That is what I mean, it is not perfect to work with because the access  are missing to get the best out of it.


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You can adjust the morphs for the tongue in 3DXChange.

I know but are not the new ExPlus Morphs Profile


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