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Character Creator 3 - Work-In-Progress 2 (Pre-Order Now!)

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Character Creator 3 - Work-In-Progress 2 (Pre-Order Now!)

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Is it possible that there will be a dynamic bridge like GoZ to post models from CC3 to Substance Painter?

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You will be able to use it, without learning how it works? That's a new one!
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kmitchell.12catblackstudios (9/23/2018)
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I must say that I always feel a little bit gypped when you announce a September release and we get a few days before October. I should have known because this is not the first time that this has happened,

Software development is not a thing that can be exactly judged. If you want a really buggy release then yes it can drop on time. But if you want something that has been ironed out then yes that might extend the estimated time. Never rush software releases. That ends bad. They should take their time and release it when they know its stable. Mind you theres no such thing as a perfect release for anything but they can make it better than a rushed release. 


Software development can be "judged". It very often is. Only with very fresh/junior teams do you experience issues tracking/managing deadlines. As a veteran to the industry, and the owner of a software company, I can assure you that software engineering efficiency and velocity has been recorded/properly planned for a very long time now. 

I find it interesting that as soon as a person brings up release dates, people incorrectly assume that others want something rushed. Who here has said "Rush this product! Release it now with all its present bugs and lack of functionality!"? The discussion at hand is a matter of an advertised release date (and thus, people making purchasing decisions based on that) versus the real release date. As with most businesses, it boils down to customer perception vs reality.

In this case, the release was slated for September. The discussion at hand is essentially "will it release in September". Derailing that by claiming that someone who expects it in September is an idiot who expects a rushed/buggy/sub-par product is not conducive to the topic at hand, and is highly reductive. By that logic, you are indirectly claiming that anyone who believes the word of Reallusion is a buffoon, and thus calling them liars. A massive blow to both Reallusion and those who support them.

What I personally find unnerving is the total silence on the matter. I haven't planned teams' schedules around the release of this software as that'd be foolish. However, as someone who purchased based on the marketing around this product (which centered around a September release and pushed very hard for pre-orders on that premise) I'd love to know what exactly I should be planning on. I have two smaller projects that are awaiting assets, which I would love to test CC3 with (that's why they're awaiting assets). For me, this boils down to whether it will slow the projects down by a large amount or not -- presently the artists are busy with other things, but that can't hold up forever. I really don't want anyone sitting on their hands waiting for CC3 just so we can conduct a test run.

As it stands, that means the decision to either use this or not will be made when we finish up with other tasks, on the fly. Sometimes you have to do that, and that is one of the reasons we are an agile studio. However, planning is certainly nice, and I'd love to mitigate as many spur-of-the-moment decisions as I possibly can. I don't want to continue down our normal routine, only to have CC3 release a week after we make that decision. If we could be informed beforehand, we can make an informed decision without any surprises. Even if the only information we receive is, "Sorry, we will likely be pushing it back to mid-October", we can at least know that the wise decision is to not wait for CC3 on these projects. If we get a surprise and it releases September 28th or October 1st, so be it, we still made a more informed decision based on the communication we were given.

I don't want anything rushed. I don't want a product that is going to crash and cause grief for artists. I'm not here to ask for that. I'm here to ask for communication, which does not seem like a tall order. I have to communicate with investors on the regular, and when it comes to deadlines it's not all rainbows and unicorns. However, the communication is still there. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask to be treated like an adult that can handle the pushing of a deadline. I'm not asking for a guaranteed release date, either.

I'm simply asking if it presently looks like it will actually be released in September. If so, great, I'll make tentative plans around that. If not, great, I'll make tentative plans around that instead. I'm not going to complain if it won't make it to a September release. On the contrary, I will be relieved that the information was actually communicated, rather than simply waiting around to find out.

This post is made with respect to Reallusion and the entire team. I'm here because I'm excited to test the product, and I really like what I've seen of CC3 so far. Sometimes it's difficult to convey things over text, and my approach is often very direct anyway. In person it's a lot easier to judge that a direct question or statement is not said with malice. All things considered, if I've said something that seems like a jab, that was not my intention. I'm just crossing my fingers for an update of any kind, not to rush/judge/criticize/complain.
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tacticious (9/24/2018)


What I personally find unnerving is the total silence on the matter.


Are you being serious? If you read through this thread alone you will see I have said numerous times that CC3 is still on course for a late September release. How is that total silence. :ermm:


                                                                

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I just bought it a couple days ago and I know that my self, I even think I remember you saying look at a couple post before yours for the answer, lol. 

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I totally do fine with the release schedule. To me, a few days more or less don't matter.
But i'm new to iClone and CC, and animations as such - so it's not a big problem anyways.






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Peter (RL) (9/11/2018)
damian.turnbull (9/11/2018)
Is there any concrete information on a release date for CC3 yet?


Not at present. We are in the final stages of development but it will depend if testing reveals any major issues that need to be fixed before release.

Peter (RL) (9/16/2018)
Dragoon1996 (9/16/2018)
hello all, does everyone know what actual date is going to be online? i cant wait to use it hehe.


I answered this question in the post before yours. Please take a look. :Whistling:

Peter (RL) (9/17/2018)
Dan@3DIM (9/17/2018)
Do anyone know the day they might release in 09/2018? I was so impatient right now heh


Hi... I have answered this already. Please read back a few posts to find the latest information. 

Peter (RL) (9/19/2018)
schmigel (9/19/2018)
Any news about CC3 launch date?


The release time frame is still the end of September or early October. :)

Peter (RL) (9/24/2018)
tacticious (9/24/2018)


What I personally find unnerving is the total silence on the matter.


Are you being serious? If you read through this thread alone you will see I have said numerous times that CC3 is still on course for a late September release. How is that total silence. :ermm:


I guess I got lost in your sea of "I don't know" and missed the most recent post by you. It's a massive stretch to claim that you "have said numerous times that CC3 is still on course for a late September release", though, considering you said it exactly once. Perhaps "total silence" was a bit of a vague statement; I was simply ignoring the fact that a bunch of "I don't know" answers had been posted, and was referring to staff. I apparently incorrectly assumed you were not staff due to your lack of pulse on the development process.

I'm also learning that, unlike 99.9% of threads where statuses are posted, you don't update the original post with updates, but rather expect people to sift through 10-15 people asking "are we on track" to every singular response (which has been "I don't know" up until the one recent response).

In any case, thanks for the... Great? Communication. Your response is right in line with what one could probably expect from someone in your position, which is actually why I kind of assumed you were a community moderator as opposed to actual staff. Linking to a post is out of the question, quoting a post is out of the question, updating the original post is out of the question, and if someone doesn't actually sift through pages upon pages of random chatter to find a needle in a haystack, you're going to be sure to let them know just how inconvenienced you are by their bringing up a lack of communication. Sums up pretty much everyone in any sort of online moderation position nicely.
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Just doing a search for the word "September" and Peter's name....  (See below)
In addition to Peter's posts, there have also been comments by other people repeating the still-official "September" release timeline, so that's probably why if feels like it's been said a lot lately.


Peter (RL) (9/22/2018)
The plan is still to release at the end of September but should there be any last minute problems it may slip to early October. Hopefully not though. :)


Peter (RL) (9/20/2018)
Character Creator 3 is still scheduled for a late September or early October release. If there are any changes to this I will let everyone know. :) 


Peter (RL) (9/19/2018)
schmigel (9/19/2018)
Any news about CC3 launch date?

The release time frame is still the end of September or early October. :)


Peter (RL) (9/16/2018)
There is no official release date as yet. CC3 has tentatively been scheduled for a late September release and that still remains the case. However if a decision is made to delay because testing brings up some serious issues, I will certainly update the forum and let everyone know as soon as possible. 






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Silly me -- I hope it's not released until it's finished.

But for those of you who want it before that time -- be careful what you wish for.



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