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Reallusion iClone7 Content Using Physics Toolbox ?

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Wait, so you're telling me...for us new users that just came aboard with this in the iC6/iC7 era, there are features....MUCH NEEDED OF COURSE, that were once apart of this software, no longer available??? This PhysX Toolbox thing? What could you actually use it for? Were you able to even create a script for entering and exiting vehicles? Could this be applied to any created vehicle/character?

I'm starting to feel cheated out here!! You spend all of this money to get what they sell as a powerhouse animator system, but then create versions that TAKE AWAY features? I am not getting it. I already had come across a post that talked about this iC5 being the best one yet, due to the different features that were possible, unlike the newer versions. Like it was mentioned that you WERE able to use MIRRORS once upon a time, but now they are saying that it's too hard to do such a thing when I asked about it??? 

I get that I'm not a programmer/developer, or anything like that, so I have no idea what is required to do such things. I just know if it could be done before and worked, why can't the same technology that was used before, be used again to duplicate it for the next gen developments? I'm just asking. Kelleytoons, GrannyJ, DAZ users/Developers (P7J5) have really been helping me out with understanding this whole new 3D world of creativity, so I guess I'm just trying to get a better understanding as a whole, in regards to why certain things that could be done at one time, are no longer able to be done.

Why am I posting this in here? Well, I purchased this Task Force Pack from Antareus (AWESOME DEVELOPER), and am also looking to purchase the newer vehicle pack that he just put out, which uses this very system to move it. I was actually coming to post a request from him, or anyone, that could do a Tactical Shotgun Pack, since out of all the weapon packs and motion combos that went with these packs, no one even thought about the TACTICAL SHOTGUNS that are also used. Maybe someone has to create a S.W.A.T. weapons/motions pack combo in order to get this. They have Pistols and Rifle Motion Packs, but no one has any Shotgun, or Demolition Packs. Although, with this in mind, I came across this post which explained how to properly use the vehicle(s) using this toolbox thing. I was doing more work than I should have been. And now I see why.

So I guess things happen for a reason. I came here for one situation, and I found a solution (so to speak) to another issue that I was having. With that being said, at least I can say THANK YOU for this fix, and now I can at least try to do this thing right with the Humvee. Yet, I still need to know what else can actually be done with this, in regards to character animations linkage to a car. I noticed in TOYSTORYLAB, he managed to get his character to get out of the car with door/character interaction. So, I'm just wondering was that something that could be created using this Toolbox, or did it just come with the car itself, like the Jeep from iC5 (there's that reference again....gosh!!) where the animation was embedded with the vehicle? 

Thank you in advance for all your help!!


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P.S.: I have an upcoming cop movie that I'm working on, which is why this is such a huge deal for me. I have a clip of the first draft of it if anyone would like to see it. Maybe, I can get some critiquing/criticism/direction on how to do this correctly. Now, the slow motion feature I did was on purpose to add a little drama detail to it, but by all means, if anyone has better direction, do not hesitate to tell me. However, I do NOT want to post it as a Youtube video yet, as again, it's in SUPER EARLY development stage, and only a clip from the title sequence. I don't want to give it all away, but the part that I will show could be considered a spoiler alert. I don't mind it though, if it's going to help me become a better story teller in this new 3D world. Please be as BRUTALLY honest as possible!!. It's a full featured film that I finished back in 2006 in the Movies Game called "A Struggle For Justice", that was once posted on TMUnderground under my old Alias Panther559, which I'm doing a remake, since it was requested by my family and some friends to do so/reboot. Again, the iC7 version is ONLY a draft. How large can a file be in order to post? :D
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grabiller (3/2/2018)

I think it is now time to ask to Reallusion to bring back the Bullet Physics Property panels or tabs - including constraints - back into iClone 7, no ?
What do you think ?


I think Reallusion, for all its merits, is leaving us flapping in the wind without our pants on. When I paid US159.00 for physics toolbox, I didn't expect it to work fully for version 5 only. I expected it to work with subsequent versions too. Us physics toolbox users are definitely being neglected here.



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toystorylab (3/10/2018)
I followed exactly that Tutorial and everything worked fine...
As seen in the first part of this video: 

FREAKIN AWESOME! I had some fun with the Humvee in the desert, but your clip is da-BOM!  ~V~

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I followed exactly that Tutorial and everything worked fine...
As seen in the first part of this video:



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And when you follow this tutorial it still does not work on your side ?

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I don't think so...So I press 'play' on the toolbox, and then stop it when the vehicle is further along. When I drag the slider back and forth on the timeline, it seems to work, but if I press spacebar it breaks the animation.

Edit: I found a tutorial, so hopefully this will help. In case anyone is interested in it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyYWx1wmP3I

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Normally it should create one Animation clip per dynamic object involved in the simulation. Don't you get those ?

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How do you even get the physics toolbox to keyframe/save the motion? I am trying to get a humvee to drive around which I can do. Wheels spinning and everything, however it appears like none of the motion gets saved/keyframed. Granted, I haven't used Iclone in a while, but perhaps you guys know.

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Kelleytoons (3/2/2018)
COMPLETELY missed my point, Guy.
What I was getting at was iClone was introducing things that could only be used by an old iClone (which is VERY old technology indeed).

Ah, sorry, it sounded like "Obsolete Technology* to me :)
It *can* be used in iClone 7 but you can't edit anything : /

Selling new contents using Bullet means they now can't pretend it is obsolete and drop it from the next version right ? (hum..)
If so why not bring back the properties and constraints panels ? That would benefit everyone.


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COMPLETELY missed my point, Guy.

What I was getting at was iClone was introducing things that could only be used by an old iClone (which is VERY old technology indeed).



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