Profile Picture

Filmmaking versus Animation

Posted By Kelleytoons 7 Years Ago
Rated 4 stars based on 4 votes.
Author
Message
Kelleytoons
Kelleytoons
Posted 7 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Distinguished Member

Distinguished Member (37.8K reputation)Distinguished Member (37.8K reputation)Distinguished Member (37.8K reputation)Distinguished Member (37.8K reputation)Distinguished Member (37.8K reputation)Distinguished Member (37.8K reputation)Distinguished Member (37.8K reputation)Distinguished Member (37.8K reputation)Distinguished Member (37.8K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: Last Year
Posts: 9.2K, Visits: 22.1K
Folks,

I thought I'd start a thread here about something I think is more important than all the discussions ever hosted here -- the differences between making a film/video/movie versus making animation.

All of us here are animators, but few have actually made a complete film, one not only which a story is told but is told in such a way that is compelling and interesting for folks to see time and time again.  Partly that's because it's easy to get caught up in the mechanics of actually animating, but mostly because it's just damn hard to create such a piece of art.  Folks in Hollywood and elsewhere get paid big bucks and most of them can't do it fairly well.

Anyway, here's one video that talks about editing, so very important in telling your story, and how you can make yours better.  There are many more out there, and I would hope people might want to share their own thoughts, experiences and ideas on how we can improve our storytelling process.  The next time you animate something, remember it's not how it looks, but how it communicates.






Alienware Aurora R16, Win 11, i9-149000KF, 3.20GHz CPU, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090 (24GB), Samsung 870 Pro 8TB, Gen3 MVNe M-2 SSD, 4TBx2, 39" Alienware Widescreen Monitor
Mike "ex-genius" Kelley

Threaded View

Threaded View
Forum Post Filmmaking versus Animation By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thank you KT - Well, as a talent/producer/director/camera... By Rogue Anime ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Good topic, KT. Nice addition, Rogue. Filmmaking versus Animation... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]justaviking (1/14/2018)[/b][hr] [quote][b]Rogue Anime... By Rogue Anime ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks Mike! I have virtually no experience on film or animation but I... By CtrlZ ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post If I may chime in here... I cannot claim to have any education or... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I have as many 'failed' scenes and illustrations as I do 'successful'... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I first tried 1 or 2x to tell a story with IClone. Also I have no... By Postfrosch ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I agree about the manageable length. One of my first (using a radio... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post With writing, if you use 100 words to express a 1000 words, then you... By Walt_R ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Walt_R (1/14/2018)[/b][hr]With writing, if you use 100 words... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post It takes a lot of commitment and it is very expensive. :P Be warned, I... By 4413Media ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Great comments and discussion here, all I wanted and more. Let me... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post This is something I want to do but find incredibly difficult.... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Interesting breaking things up as such. I enjoy forcing myself to do... By kungphu ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Initially, animation seems like a 'simple way' to tell a story...... By illusionLAB ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post When I was actually making "films" one of the more frustrating things... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I seem to recall a discussion a while back about "structure" in a... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Yup! I think Ani mentioned the same thing as well. Structure is good,... By kungphu ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Good points of view, here. All are good, but I learned long ago that... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I like the comment about "fluff": when talking about the length of a... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post An excellent discussion on all aspects of animation. As far as... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thinking about the title of this thread - "Filmmaking versus... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Dennis, My idea originally (and perhaps I didn't explain it well) is... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Sorry Peter, perils of text there. I misread the comment. The... By 4413Media ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I'm not surprised that there are more 'clips' and tests than actual... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post @KelleyToons - Thanks for that clarification (as the initiator of this... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post It's sort of like the difference between "do you create eye candy" or... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote] a one man production of an entire story is a daunting task... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I feel a little guilty for not posting more in the Forum despite... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Something in Spiny Norman's post, where he asks, "Does any of this... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ridley Scott is always praised for his beautiful camera work. Guess... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post We in the US are mostly exposed to one or two particularly kinds of... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post "3d animated Film".... in CGI: The idea is to write an awesome story... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Damned you all guys! This thread is so interesting that I almost... By RobertoColombo ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote]Thanks you all: so many useful hints, tips links, and... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote]Thanks you all: so many useful hints, tips links, and... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Good stuff....I'm takin' notes for sure! ;) By mark ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]mark (1/16/2018)[/b][hr]Good stuff....I'm takin' notes for... By colour ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post The Rashomon Effect One of my all time favorite themes is summed up... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Interesting contributions all round. Thanks, all, I appreciate it.... By SeanMac ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Kelleytoons (1/18/2018)[/b][hr]The Rashomon Effect One of... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]colour (1/18/2018)[/b][hr] IMO, Film-making is filming the... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thank you all for being so kind about my post. Post’…it was... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks for you posts fellow Ausie. Similar with every ones... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I apologize in advance. This got long (again). Maybe it will help if... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Great post Dennis. I had forgotten 'Save the Cat'...Yeah! all your... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Delema...it is difficult. You're going to want to bring up the volume... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote] A similar, though more studious exercise, is to write down the... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post So what do people think of the "animation" part of this topic? Can you... By Rampa ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post For me the animation part of this topic is not about creating... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Nothing stops me in my tracks but things can force me into a detour.... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post What stops me in my tracks? In a word: Me. In five words: The... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Firstly sorry about my font size, I have been working off my laptop... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post It's good advice about structure and such, but I have mixed feelings... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Animagic...I'm right with you. I had dozens of books on screenwriting... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I have been giving myself some deep considering to several things... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Delema...you're on fire dude! Go for it...Can't wait to see the... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Actually, are you familiar with the concept of the 'pitch'. If you can... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post No internet yesterday so I'm coming a bit late back here. This has... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Last...I promise...where did Quentin Tarantino work before he became a... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I'm sorry Kelleytoons for seemingly hi-jacking your post. All I know... By Spiny Norman ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I don't think any of the discussion here has been OT, just a bit... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Multiple sections again... ;) STRUCTURE AND PLANNING: It's... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Rampa (1/17/2018)[/b][hr]So what do people think of the... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Animating first with multiple cameras and cutting in various ways... By illusionLAB ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Kelleytoons (1/14/2018)[/b][hr]Folks, I thought I'd start a... By Ziggy72 ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I agree with Kelley on storyboarding in Iclone. Do it if that's what... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote] Do it if that's what you need to do but, as an amateur (and... By Postfrosch ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ultimately it's whatever works for you. For me... drawing 20 panels... By illusionLAB ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post When you write or make a film (animation), you’re either trying to... By Walt_R ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [Quote] Kelleytoons (1/14/2018) All of us here are animators ,... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I don't think anyone here has gone OT, as I said -- where I was trying... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Kelleytoons (1/17/2018)[/b][hr]But all this discussion here... By Ziggy72 ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post KT. Would an example of that be something like animating a character... By Rampa ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I think a great example of "animation" vs. "filmmaking" was mentioned... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Rampa, As Dennis notes, the webinar was a good example of the thing... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post 3D Animated Film/Movie: All modern (Great) films have a good story.... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post uncwee :) "Many scenes tell the story with "No" audio.... just... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Wow! So many (New) things to remember. Thanks everyone! :) By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I have been reading and enjoying all the discussion here. Very good... By theschemer ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]theschemer (1/18/2018)[/b][hr] I have enrolled in several... By rollasoc ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]rollasoc (1/19/2018)[/b][hr][quote][b]theschemer... By theschemer ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post For those interested in storyboarding and screenwriting generally you... By SeanMac ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]theschemer (1/22/2018)[/b] Which course on film scoring did... By rollasoc ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post iClone was initially marketed as a Machinima or real-time filmmaking... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote] As for 3d animation... there's mention of the seminar, but no... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote] Delerna And that is the kind of starting points I am thinking... By uncwee ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Alfred Hitchcock "To catch a thief" was one of my favorites. Very... By theschemer ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I've been considering starting a spin-off thread. The posts about... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post There are some interesting sample videos at this site (links below)... By gordryd ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post @Gordryd, Interesting courses. I watched several of the clips. It... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]gordryd (1/19/2018)[/b][hr]... By rollasoc ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Re Hollywoodcamerawork courses. I bought these courses years ago and... By SeanMac ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Dennis, Great share -- that's almost *exactly* what I was going to do... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Wow, this is an interesting and helpfull thread, thanx for sharing...... By toystorylab ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]toystorylab (1/20/2018)[/b][hr]I can recommend... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]justaviking (1/21/2018)[/b][hr] @Toystorylab... So, have you... By toystorylab ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]toystorylab (1/22/2018)[/b][hr]Yes, i use the software... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post The paid version not only reads your mind, it takes your cash out of... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post @justaviking " Normal 0 false false... By SeanMac ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I was just joking because of the "free version doesn't read your mind"... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post @Sean, Good comments. I don't remember the tool being tied to a... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I downloaded and used the free version of Causality awhile back, but... By gordryd ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]SeanMac (1/22/2018)[/b][hr]../.. I got the impression from... By GOETZIWOOD STUDIOS ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Normal 0 false false false EN-US... By SeanMac ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]SeanMac (1/29/2018)[/b][hr]../.. I suggest we experience our... By GOETZIWOOD STUDIOS ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Hi grabiller Thanks for that. What can I say? You may well be right... By SeanMac ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post A little review of Storyboarder:... By toystorylab ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I have had causality ever since I saw its recommendation in the forum... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Hmmmm I haven't gotten far enough to discover causalities... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post UPDATE Silly me clicked post comment twice because it was reacting... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Delerna: :) Been there, done that. ;) :cool: pete By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Peterblood, good to see your comment. From your previous posts I am... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Actually my friend, I meant that I've been fooled by the slow post... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]peterblood (1/23/2018)[/b][hr]A, at my age, time is my most... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote] I meant that I've been fooled by the slow post time and... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I like very much the Hollywood camerawork courses. A lot of learning... By argus1000 ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post There's a few things that I wish to add. I'm sitting down on Sunday... By 4413Media ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]BenjaminTuttle (1/24/2018)[/b][hr]I would build and mold it... By Ziggy72 ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I follow this discussion from the beginning, it's very interesting.... By Pixtim ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post The technical evolution aspect is a good observation -- iClone in... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Pixtim: "...the constant technical evolution ... when we do a... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post On the point of working 2 or 3 minute videos is more likely to get... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Do you have a link to any of your HP stuff? My wife and I are kind of... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I think this might be a little off topic but I think it is also... By Delerna ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I've had to move projects from earlier versions of iClone as well,... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post An interesting thing happened tonight; I got a system up and running... By 4413Media ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Hi, Fascinating topic. Make me think that until now, the majority... By Brick Loko ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Yes, you have summed up exactly what I was referring to when I started... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Kelleytoons (1/26/2018)[/b][hr]The number one mistake I see... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Nah, I disagree with this 100%. A good story, no matter what it is,... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Understanding the medium (and thus your audience) is a really great... By thebiz.movies ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post One thing we can agree upon -- credits (whether end or beginning) are... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I think JAV and KT are both correct... people WILL watch a good story... By illusionLAB ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I also have to agree about the amount of time I'll expect to spend... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I call BS but see Dennis' thread for fuller explanation (I'm too tired... By Kelleytoons ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post Kelley: :) Please explain. :cool: pete By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I'll be starting a little lecture series tomorrow. No livestreaming,... By 4413Media ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I got often asked by friends "why don't you tell a story using iClone... By son.m ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post What is the problem to work with voice actors? If you want to tell a... By thedirector1974 ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]son.m (1/28/2018)[/b][hr]I got often asked by friends "why... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post To add to this: 3 to 5 minutes is an acceptable length for an... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I :kiss: my voice actors. They're easy to work with and, although... By Peter Blood ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I went through the Causality tutorials yesterday and I can see it... By animagic ( 7 Years Ago )
Forum Post I was going to try to pull this into the "Structure" thread, but will... By justaviking ( 7 Years Ago )



Reading This Topic