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MY FIRST TEST WITH FACEWARE

Posted By charly Rama 2 Years Ago
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I to was confused as to what to expect from Faceware as its expensive .i will copy paste below the best responce i got to my questions from freerange . Maybe they should call it Lipware as it seems the viseme is what its all about. You still have to do all the expressions manually in facepuppet.  Problem is people who post there work are just posting the raw viseme layer and not finishing the animation with a manual pass over with the facepuppet tool , so it looks bad and not natural. thedirector1974 is correct  we can do every thing Faceware does with the facepuppet and lipsync options already inside Iclone. Faceware is a big time saver when it comes to viseme which is useful for large productions i assume.

quote]freerange (11/6/2017)


In professional usage face capture is never used raw in the end product, it always goes through cleanup and animation. Without the curve editor getting a solid facial performance in iClone will be super challenging. The viseme system needs a lot of work, or you have to do one of the crazy workarounds that use Crazytalk and a speech to text engine to get something close to accurate. Face puppet on it's own always looks procedural so unless you are adding a lot of keying work on it, it just does not look natural. 
No silver bullet, just time savers, and face ware is a big time saver.[/quote]
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I agree. 
In this example, I think it should be better indeed if facial motion was edited with curve editor, but for a "non professional" user like me, it is enough 

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I do not understand why anyone showing a FW score gets beaten up.

Actually No one is beaten
All who post in a public forum must expect that there are people who have their own opinion about the shown results  and say it.

For me, it would also be important  to see a realy difference, if  I would  spend extra money for that.
But people are all different , and  at the end  the main thing is to have fun.


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There many good points made here.
My decision to buy the faceware plugin was not because I thought it was going to create way better facial animations than the methods that are part of iClone.
I bought it because I thought it was going to make creating good facial animations faster and easier than through the other methods.
I haven't decided whether it was worth it yet because I'm currently spending most of my time creating content for requests as well as a Harry potter fan fiction video I am wanting to make for personal viewing. I haven't had time to check out the face puppet and face key methods yet. I have tried faceware a bit but having trouble with lighting to get it working effectively.
I am starting to wonder if I was silly buying it before trying out the new iclone7 facial animations. Hopefully, when I start my fan fiction video I will discover it is valuably faster and easier with the faceware plugin? 






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