Poser or iClone?

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captaincaseous	captaincaseous Posted 17 Years Ago
Veteran Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 16 Years Ago Posts: 11, Visits: 42	Hi everybody. I'm not a user (yet) but am wondering if I can get your advice. I'm trying to create basic animations to describe concepts for education for kids (think basic math, science, etc.) I've been playing with a Poser 8 demo for a few weeks and it's coming time to either buy or not. It's OK, but a bit challenging for a neophyte like me. I have lots of questions and there isn;t a lot of support. Would it be worth considering iClone? I only know what I've read about it but it seems a little more user friendly. Is that true? Any input/opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Todd

Alley	Alley Posted 17 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 3 Months Ago Posts: 3.7K, Visits: 12.8K	Hi there, I started with Poser and it is more difficult to use plus the animations take much longer to render. I rarely use it anymore. For still art, etc. you will get some nice looking stuff but if it is animations for children you are looking for, I would go with Iclone. It's pretty user friendly and you can see everything in real time and can get some excellent results. :) Alley

Seeker769	Seeker769 Posted 17 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 13 Years Ago Posts: 422, Visits: 1.1K	Hi, Todd One of the best ways to learn about iClone and if it meets your needs is to try it, you can download a free version called iClone4 EX from the Reallusion store. I used EX for about ten minutes before I bought the Pro version, needless to say, I was very impressed:) And now two months later I have yet to be disappointed. Happy Holidays, Chris iClone training resources https://forum.reallusion.com/Topic70771-161-1.aspx

vidi	vidi Posted 17 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 2 Months Ago Posts: 10.8K, Visits: 40.2K	Poser and iClone are 2 total different programms! You can't these compare together. Would you like make fast films in short times is iClone right for you. iClone is a filmmaker with lowpoly figurs and pixelshading for realtime rendering looks like computergames, but it very fast and had many feature and effects for exciting filme projects. But, wish you high quality renderings picture with almost real looks figures(DAZ or Poser Charakter) you needs poser. Poser is not right tool for filmmaking, it is to slow and needs big hardware, therefor is iClone better. ------------------------------------------------------------------- liebe Grüße vidi meet us here

stuckon3d	stuckon3d Posted 17 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: Last Month Posts: 1.8K, Visits: 7.8K	captaincaseous (12/12/2009) Hi everybody. I'm not a user (yet) but am wondering if I can get your advice. I'm trying to create basic animations to describe concepts for education for kids (think basic math, science, etc.) I've been playing with a Poser 8 demo for a few weeks and it's coming time to either buy or not. It's OK, but a bit challenging for a neophyte like me. I have lots of questions and there isn;t a lot of support. Would it be worth considering iClone? I only know what I've read about it but it seems a little more user friendly. Is that true? Any input/opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Todd Hi Todd, I know it is going to sound bias since you are in an Iclone forum but Iclone would be a better choice for what you want to do. The fact that everything is realtime and you can play the animation as soon as you make a change, production wise, poser is no match. Everything in Iclone is realtime. For example, you change the color of a light and BOOM! its there, there is no waiting for a render. Iclone is WYSIWYG What you see is what you get. You cant beat that when creating movies or shorts. Hope this helped, Stuckon3d PS: if you want to get a feel for what Iclone can do , take the free intro class on the 27th. You will be amazed on what you can create in a couple of hours. ;) Product Specialist My iClone 7 gallery My IMDB

Cricky	Cricky Posted 17 Years Ago
Skype ID= learn.iclone Group: Forum Members Last Active: 4 Years Ago Posts: 2.8K, Visits: 13.8K	Todd, you've already tried Poser, so why not immerse a bit more and see what iClone can do? Free and without expiration trial version available here...buy when you are comfortable, not when the clock runs out. captaincaseous (12/12/2009) Hi everybody. I'm not a user (yet) but am wondering if I can get your advice. I'm trying to create basic animations to describe concepts for education for kids (think basic math, science, etc.) I've been playing with a Poser 8 demo for a few weeks and it's coming time to either buy or not. It's OK, but a bit challenging for a neophyte like me. I have lots of questions and there isn;t a lot of support. Would it be worth considering iClone? I only know what I've read about it but it seems a little more user friendly. Is that true? Any input/opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Todd SKYPE ID: rc.650 http://city.reallusion.com/store/ModuleExpand.aspx?id=GS634545170497417354&mdid=18866 http://city.reallusion.com/ContentTag.aspx?tagname=Cricky&AuthorID=20081020688550191201#]Reallusion Store Content " If I had Alzheimer's (Old Timers), would I know it? "

Paumanok West	Paumanok West Posted 17 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 12 Years Ago Posts: 2.5K, Visits: 7.0K	Todd, let me speak for the dummy contingent. I'm not the brightest turnip that fell off the truck. (Oh man, did I just mix some terrible metaphors. :crazy: ) I didn't spend much time with Poser. I found it too odd and unintuitive to bother with because I was interested in animation, and Poser doesn't support it very well. But the first time I tried iClone (version 1, I might add), it just made sense. It was designed from the start to do human animation. The user-interface is supremely logical and easy. It's incredibly powerful while remaining easy. The price point is RIDICULOUSLY low when compared to the animation big boys, like 3DS Max. Contrary to some of the gripes around here, the documentation is quite good. And the content library is growing by leaps and bounds, both at Reallusion and at its content partner websites. The forum folks are very smart and very kind and very dedicated, so questions are routinely answered in short order. The company is very well-run and has a great business model and lots of partnerships with other technology companies. The way I see it, you will either go with iClone or with MovieStorm. (You could also try Blender, which is very powerful and very free, but I think it will not be as user-friendly for the forseeable future.) Go ahead, download MovieStorm. Unlike iClone, the animation package is completely free. MovieStorm relies entirely on content sales. It's very good and very high-level, and there was a time I thought it would really compete with iClone. Not anymore. Nothing can touch iClone, not for lightyears. Oh, did I mention I love iClone 4? :D General Picture - animating now to life itself(tm) Member of Content Wizards

elliespotter	elliespotter Posted 17 Years Ago
Distinguished Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 4 Years Ago Posts: 258, Visits: 1.5K	Hi Todd, My two cents ... For your requirement I think iClone has to be the solution, not only for the reasons outlined above but it has been known for some very young children to use the application themselves quite productively. That may enhance their learning experience too ;) I must confess I happened upon iClone first and have only tried the alternatives after experiencing the iClone offering. Nothing has come close to both meeting my needs and performing adequately on low-end hardware. However, I do believe that other tools are needed to achieve a decent finished product, e.g. Magix MovieMaker Pro for post production editing and building an efficiently compressed final movie file, Audacity for sound effects and background music editing (also TTS manipulation if you use it) and CAMStudio for CBT work. With this lot in my toolbox the only reason my final movies are rubbish is because I'm a rubbish film maker :hehe: Kind regards, Alex

Casina__	Casina__ Posted 17 Years Ago
Senior Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 16 Years Ago Posts: 47, Visits: 80	poser or iclone? iclone for the simple, fast and "dirty"...choose iclone, although iclone is not so simple these days, because it's now very expensive, and with the cost of all the addons....more expensive... poser is for the real artists...it takes some time to learn, but with the upgrades nothing changes, meaning that... the program stays the same, in other words you do not have to re-learn the whole programs over again... the render is FAST now...as it use to be very slow...this is not the case anymore... at least the very least....poser doesn't crash everytime you use it... preview mode for the fast render, and the firefly is faster now that ever...just do your vids in little clips instead of the whole movie in one video... IMO, poser motions are so much easier and faster to do, and less time consuming, and you can hone in on exactly what you want to precisely... iclone has the very easiest "face" for your characters...If you want to make a character you can take a photograph and easily put your face on a character...iclone is the very best for this type of situation... and iclone has "GOOD WATER" for the 3d scenes...

captaincaseous	captaincaseous Posted 17 Years Ago
Veteran Member Group: Forum Members Last Active: 16 Years Ago Posts: 11, Visits: 42	Thanks so much, everyone. Your comments have been very helpful. I've downloaded the trial and I'll start playing with it. T.

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