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GoZ update 4th quarter?

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Pre-ordered the Pipeline version of 3DX mostly for the GoZ / silent / bridge to IClone 6 due the 4th quarter, any word on when this will drop?


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To be honest I don't think this will make 4th quarter. However I will check and try and get the latest schedule regarding GoZ.

                                                                

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Thanks Peter, always appreciate you trying to keep us updated.


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Sadly I have to bring you bad news regarding GoZ and Silent Import/Export. These features have been cancelled at least for now as technical reasons prevented implementation. There were simply too many changes needed to the way iClone/3DXchange work with meshes (triangles as opposed to quads) that prevented GoZ from becoming a viable option.

We do apologise for the disappointment this will understandably cause.


                                                                

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What is GoZ?  
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GoZ means "Go to Zbrush" in a "silent way" back and forth to modify your character.

 It's not a bad news for my pipeline and Zbrush is quite expensive...
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This was one of the reasons that I purchased 3dx6 pipeline so more than disappointed with the latest news.
Perhaps RL should take it off their product page as I see it is still there as an upcoming feature to follow.
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mtakerkart (12/10/2015)
...Zbrush is quite expensive...


Would such a "silent link" work with Scupltris too?
Sculptris is basically a free ("non-pro") version of Zbrush, if I understand correctly.
You can take Scupltris files into Zbrush.  I'm not certain if it's the exact same file format, and if Zbrush models can be opened by Sculptris.





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Oh, yes, I immediately went to the 3DX6 page too.
Yes the EMPTY PROMISES of the 2 MOST CRUCIAL ADDITION TO 3DXCHANGE are indeed still up.
Taunting those pipeline users...

WYPFIWYG is the new normal?

What You Paid For Isn't What You Get?

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/f24e60b1-8623-481f-b48b-83a6.jpg

For me, this is far worse than the $99 buyer remorse of Indigo.

I bought 3DX Pipeline for TWO REASONS:

1. Silent I/O
2. GoZ


I left iClone5 years ago for greener paths as I foresaw the anti-workflow anti-customization blocks.
Didn't regret.
I returned and paid for all V6 PIPELINE RL tools - on the promise of faster improved workflow and flowing customization pipeline
Now this dream is killed.
I have not felt so slapped in the face by a CG tool (or a game) I've invested plenty of time and resources.

3DXchange Pipeline or 3Dxchange Pipedream?

I feel the pain of RL's 3D content developers.
Psychological pain from deep disappointment + Carpal Tunnel iClick wrist pain.

I'm still too shocked for words.
Thanks for the nice Xmas present, RL.

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This was one of the reasons that I purchased 3dx6 pipeline so more than disappointed with the latest news.
Perhaps RL should take it off their product page as I see it is still there as an upcoming feature to follow.
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/d2298085-a6fd-4914-aefb-d42d.jpg





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mtakerkart (12/10/2015)
...Zbrush is quite expensive...


Would such a "silent link" work with Scupltris too?
Sculptris is basically a free ("non-pro") version of Zbrush, if I understand correctly.
You can take Scupltris files into Zbrush.  I'm not certain if it's the exact same file format, and if Zbrush models can be opened by Sculptris.



Sculptris is not a junior/ paired-down ZBrush. It is an indie tool bought by Pixologic.

Daz Studio has only ONE external direct applink. GoZ.
Carrara has only ONE external direct applink. GoZ.
I have both.
There is a $imple reason why GoZ is the only external direct applink for Daz3D.

$$$$$$$ PRO-GRADE 3D ASSETS $$$$$$$$

Zbrush is industry standard for 3D content creators like Maya/Max is for pro animators/riggers.
Not because Sculptris 3Dcoat Blender Hexagon Sketchup are not as useful to iCloners.
ZBrush has a HUGE professional-grade user base.
Even Autodesk is opening a 3D asset marketplace to match their Stingray game engine.
RL/IClone needs pro-grade 3D assets. Lots.

By now most iCloners should be aware of one paradox in CG content:
Creating optimized mid-res game assets is far more inten$ive than Daz3D high-res assets.
There are never enough unique original PRO-GRADE REALTIME/ GAME-FRIENDLY 3D ASSETS.
I emphasized: pro-grade. Real-time.
This is why RL needs iClone-GoZ to work.
Same reason why Max Maya UE Unity get priority.

I know the tri quad applink technical challenge (not specific to ZBrush)
Overcome it and be the first game engine to crack that
RL iClone will gain more than just prograde content creators
RL iClone dev will earn bragging right over other game engines

At the end of the day...
This is not just about peer reputation and business ethics
It is about bu$ine$$ priority.

Invest dev energy wisely
Long view, not piecemeal.


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