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Hi all,

As you all may know, we recently had some controversy regarding certain adult-themed content that was published in the Marketplace. I have had quite an *ahem* interesting time recently researching how comparable sites deal with this issue, and also some fairly amusing meetings with the team here discussing how to deal with it.

I'm here to provide you with some guidelines for publishing content that is considered to be mature or adult-themed. I'll preface this by saying that we're not here to tell you what to do with poor old Chuck or whatever other nude character you may get your hands on, but our Marketplace is a public place for users ranging from school children to older conservative folk, and we would like to respect their right to a wholesome content browsing experience.

That said, here are the 3 guidelines that we've set up for publishing adult-themed content:

No functioning sexual parts
In our CCD agreement, we state that developers must not publish any sort of pornographic material. The nude human body itself can be used for artistic purposes, etc., but any sort of sexual functionality is a bit of a stretch, and would be considered pornographic to me. So, please refrain from adding this functionality. You can inform users who purchase your content in private how they might add this if they really wanted, but please don’t include it in the published character, and don’t mention anything about it in the description.



Tasteful and non-sexual description
Take as an example Daz’s Michael 6. The character does in fact include male genitalia (in the Pro version), however this is only a minimal mention in the description. I think that being overtly sexual with the description is not the sort of image we want for the Marketplace since there are lots of students, educators, and religious people shopping about as well. Therefore, if genitalia is included, just follow the template of Michael 6 when in doubt, and limit it to a 3-4 word footnote.



Non-inflammatory commercialization
Commercialization that is overtly sexual, with censored boxes and such over certain areas are a little provocative and tacky. We would prefer that the characters have undergarments or bikinis, etc. as Daz does in its images. Also, the use of real-life naked male or female images is prohibited.



The main point here is that we want to maintain a clean image in the Marketplace. We have nothing against selling nude characters, however we would prefer that they not be blatantly sexualized. A little sexuality is fine with content such as lingerie, etc., but please keep it tasteful. With regards to the Marketplace under Reallusion's name, we would prefer to go in the direction of a community like Daz rather than that of Second Life. In the future, we may consider creating some sort of adult filter for the Marketplace, but as of right now there are no plans for this.

So that's all I have to say about this 'arousing' issue. What you do on your own computer is your business, but we need to keep the Marketplace free of willy... at least functional willy. You may commence groaning. Wink
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Thanks for your lucid & humo(u)rous Post, Kai Smile

Although it's primarily aimed at Marketplace Content Developers, it should satisfy the concerns raised by complainants.

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It sounds fair and balanced to me.

i must admit that this event has inspired a midgets and milfs bundle idea....but i digress.

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So no free willy 2, if only it worked out that way for the film...



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I'm agreeable to the terms and thanks for creating a solid game plan for everyone to go by.



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Thanks for the clarity! (I better not make a "Poop Particle Emitter" then... lol)

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"colour (8/20/2014)
Thanks for your lucid & humo(u)rous Post, Kai Smile

Although it's primarily aimed at Marketplace Content Developers, it should satisfy the concerns raised by complainants."

I take-back what I said. As at 14:45 today, it appears that Big Boss hasn't removed the offending Content from his Store;

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KaiD (8/20/2014)
Hi all,

As you all may know, we recently had some controversy regarding certain adult-themed content that was published in the Marketplace. I have had quite an *ahem* interesting time recently researching how comparable sites deal with this issue, and also some fairly amusing meetings with the team here discussing how to deal with it.

I'm here to provide you with some guidelines for publishing content that is considered to be mature or adult-themed. I'll preface this by saying that we're not here to tell you what to do with poor old Chuck or whatever other nude character you may get your hands on, but our Marketplace is a public place for users ranging from school children to older conservative folk, and we would like to respect their right to a wholesome content browsing experience.

That said, here are the 3 guidelines that we've set up for publishing adult-themed content:

No functioning sexual parts
In our CCD agreement, we state that developers must not publish any sort of pornographic material. The nude human body itself can be used for artistic purposes, etc., but any sort of sexual functionality is a bit of a stretch, and would be considered pornographic to me. So, please refrain from adding this functionality. You can inform users who purchase your content in private how they might add this if they really wanted, but please don’t include it in the published character, and don’t mention anything about it in the description.



Tasteful and non-sexual description
Take as an example Daz’s Michael 6. The character does in fact include male genitalia (in the Pro version), however this is only a minimal mention in the description. I think that being overtly sexual with the description is not the sort of image we want for the Marketplace since there are lots of students, educators, and religious people shopping about as well. Therefore, if genitalia is included, just follow the template of Michael 6 when in doubt, and limit it to a 3-4 word footnote.



Non-inflammatory commercialization
Commercialization that is overtly sexual, with censored boxes and such over certain areas are a little provocative and tacky. We would prefer that the characters have undergarments or bikinis, etc. as Daz does in its images. Also, the use of real-life naked male or female images is prohibited.



The main point here is that we want to maintain a clean image in the Marketplace. We have nothing against selling nude characters, however we would prefer that they not be blatantly sexualized. A little sexuality is fine with content such as lingerie, etc., but please keep it tasteful. With regards to the Marketplace under Reallusion's name, we would prefer to go in the direction of a community like Daz rather than that of Second Life. In the future, we may consider creating some sort of adult filter for the Marketplace, but as of right now there are no plans for this.

So that's all I have to say about this 'arousing' issue. What you do on your own computer is your business, but we need to keep the Marketplace free of willy... at least functional willy. You may commence groaning. Wink


What about your EULA - what about your terms and conditions for developers?

That is rhetorical question. No need to reply to me, I have said what needs saying and whether you can convince me or not will make no difference.

When you say things like you have. You are consenting to the development of content targeted for production of pornography. Yes, with this thread you are effectively licensing people to create porn using Reallusion applications and content. I take it you work for Reallusion. You have made a public policy statement in this posting, which may have altered other terms and conditions for the use of Reallusion applications and content.

Reallusion will be a party to any legal or criminal actions taken against people using RL content items. Reallusion will have made money from those transactions. RL will be legally bound to the perverts. Reallusion is an international company. Pornography may not be illegal in the US or some other countries, but what about the countries where it isn't legal. LOL

Reallusion would be wise to keep their EULA and terms and conditions for developers and leave this sorted stuff to others with less to lose.

You cannot walk through a cow pasture...you don't get some on you. (you know what "some" is)



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"colour (8/20/2014)
Thanks for your lucid & humo(u)rous Post, Kai Smile

Although it's primarily aimed at Marketplace Content Developers, it should satisfy the concerns raised by complainants."

I take-back what I said. As at 14:45 today, it appears that Big Boss hasn't removed the offending Content from his Store;

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Hi Colour,

As one of those who complained about BigBoss's content being posted on the forum, can you please stop posting screenshots and quotes from the product page. It seems counter productive to request the content be removed and then be the one who keeps posting it back on the forum.

Thanks for your understanding. Smile

                                                                

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"colour (8/20/2014)
Thanks for your lucid & humo(u)rous Post, Kai Smile

Although it's primarily aimed at Marketplace Content Developers, it should satisfy the concerns raised by complainants."

I take-back what I said. As at 14:45 today, it appears that Big Boss hasn't removed the offending Content from his Store;

[Removed By Moderator]

Hi Colour,

As one of those who complained about BigBoss's content being posted on the forum, can you please stop posting screenshots and quotes from the product page. It seems counter productive to request the content be removed and then be the one who keeps posting it back on the forum.

Thanks for your understanding. Smile

Agreed & thanks, Peter.

Screenshot in other Thread now removed by me.

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