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I've Posted this before:

AutoSave is User selectable, as an option. Automatically Saving & Loading a Project when re-Launching the Program. Not an option I advocate, for a number of reasons.

InstantSave isn't User Selectable. Automatically taking Snapshots of the Edit Timeline every few seconds, in eg; some NLE & other Programs. Similar to, but not the same as, System Restore that takes Snapshots of your PC's System, when changes to Software / Hardware are made.

In eg; Pinnacle Studio NLE Program, The Restore PLP Project Program File Links to the OBJ(ect) Project Sub-folder, automatically Restoring the Project at the last Edit when Studio crashed.

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justaviking (4/9/2013)
At the risk of being "Captain Obvious," I want to remind people we may not all share the same definitions for terms like "autosave" and "auto backup" and so on.

I don't know exactly HOW it works, but I want to repeat my recommondation for the behavior of Avid Studio 16.

It may be sad this it's necessary, but it's recovery feature came in very useful again. Studio locked up and I had to kill it via the Task Manager.

When I relaunched Studio, I was presented with three options, similar to these:
  • Continue editing <---- This is picks up from the point of the crash
  • Open the last-saved copy
  • Launch without opening anything


I have had excellent success with the "Continue editing" option. I still save frequently (and do a SaveAs regularly too). But it's nice to not lose that last 10 or 20 minutes of work.

It's also comforting to have that second option (same as launching "empty" and then doing an Open command, just more convenient). If whatever caused the crash makes it so you cannot "Continue Editing" you can open from your last Save operation, and presumably it was working fine at that time so that copy of the poject should be safe and uncorrupted.

It's like it writes to a temporary file or something, and maybe it's tied into the "undo" buffer or something like that. But that's for the programmers to figure out.

It's a great feature, and totally has my vote.


sounds wonderful. wonder why they don't implement this on Pro Tools. when it crashes i have to manually check the back up folder and select the latest file made.
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animagic (4/9/2013)
Autobackup wouldn't really help if you have been adjusting keyframes for a while and then get a crash. The autosave could be numbered to prevent overwriting the original. And you could maybehave both to make everyone happy.


it's basically the same thing if done in intervals of 1,2,3,4,5 minutes. i dont know if RL can design it in a way that the auto back up is something that happens in the background that the user does not notice at all. this is how things are done in my DAW software (Avid PT). i hardly lose anything when it crashes. also, it doesnt make an endless list of files. it just cycles through 10-25 files, and that's that. when a back up file is too old, it gets overwritten. everything is saved in a folder called back up sessions.
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At the risk of being "Captain Obvious," I want to remind people we may not all share the same definitions for terms like "autosave" and "auto backup" and so on.

I don't know exactly HOW it works, but I want to repeat my recommondation for the behavior of Avid Studio 16.

It may be sad this it's necessary, but it's recovery feature came in very useful again.  Studio locked up and I had to kill it via the Task Manager.

When I relaunched Studio, I was presented with three options, similar to these:

  • Continue editing <---- This is picks up from the point of the crash
  • Open the last-saved copy
  • Launch without opening anything

I have had excellent success with the "Continue editing" option.  I still save frequently (and do a SaveAs regularly too).  But it's nice to not lose that last 10 or 20 minutes of work.

It's also comforting to have that second option (same as launching "empty" and then doing an Open command, just more convenient).  If whatever caused the crash makes it so you cannot "Continue Editing" you can open from your last Save operation, and presumably it was working fine at that time so that copy of the poject should be safe and uncorrupted.

It's like it writes to a temporary file or something, and maybe it's tied into the "undo" buffer or something like that.  But that's for the programmers to figure out.

It's a great feature, and totally has my vote.



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Autobackup wouldn't really help if you have been adjusting keyframes for a while and then get a crash. The autosave could be numbered to prevent overwriting the original. And you could maybe have both to make everyone happy.


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Yes. The auto backup is probably a better implementation. This is what Sketchup does.
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i think an auto-backup system is much safer than autosave. there are a lot of things you could do wrong along the way that you don't want saved, right?
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Thank you all for your feedback. This is an often requested feature that for technical reasons has yet to be implemented. However I will again pass your requests forward. :)

                                                                

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There's a distinction between AutoSave & InstantSave Features in NLE Programs.

AutoSave is User selectable, automatically Loading your Current Project when Launching a Program.

InstantSave isn't User selectable, automatically taking Snapshots of  your Project Edits every few seconds.

Pinnacle Studio has both of the above Features. InstantSave was introduced with S10, which was re-programmed to use Avid Liquid Render Engine, which had the InstantSave Feature..

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In my experience, saving in iClone 5 is most faster than in previous versions of iClone, so I'm not too concerned about workflow interruptions. And it should obviously be implemented as an option to accommodate those who prefer not to use it.

With IC 5.4 being so awesome :w00t:, our demands are modest...:ermm:


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