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By mavric4610 - 13 Years Ago
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An automatic save for projects similar to adobe premier pro would be good.
So that perhaps every 10 minutes or so the project is automatically
Saved.
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By rcsinger29 - 13 Years Ago
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Awesome idea, BUT!!!
Make sure there are settings and the auto save uses a temp name or a [ *(1).filename].
I often load a base project, edit, animate, and save as a differnent project. The same base project may be saved into 4 or more different scene projects for a single animation. It would suck to lose my base because of auto save.
This is a much needed feature as I have lost hours of work due to a crash more than once. But it needs to be thought out. Perhaps even an "autosave" folder in the customs directory where all autosave projects are stored.
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By Cricky - 13 Years Ago
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Maybe a message in that little message panel at the bottom right of your screen, saying "Backup is needed" should pop-up every ten minutes to remind you that "CTRL-S" should be done now?
This would be a simple solution. It would help those who can't remember to backup regularly.
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If you just get in the habit of pressing CTRL+S every few minutes you can create your own automatic backups.
Use the "Grandfather - Father- Son" method.
1st Backup "Grandfather"
2nd Backup "Father"
3rd Backup "Son"
Then start all over again at the top.
If you want an "Automatic" backup, be prepared to stop when you are not ready, so it can do what you can do anyway (CTRL+S). Considering this is not just a video editor and has a lot to compile when "automatically" backing up.
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By planetstardragon - 13 Years Ago
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my music software has a nice auto save system - it has the regular save function - but creates a back up folder for each project that auto saves in case of crashes.
so if you hit save file - you have File 1
if you crash - you have a series of bak_file_1.fil in your back up folder with the time stamps.
so you get the best of both worlds and when you are done with the project you have all the auto save files in one directory - easy to delete / clean up after you are finished with the project.
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By animagic - 13 Years Ago
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This has been requested many times. Thus far no response from RL.
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By justaviking - 13 Years Ago
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+1 My NLE software (Pinnacle Studio v16) auto-saves continuously. I'm not sure exactly how it works, but it seems to write to the disk constantly to some temporary file. If it locks up and you have to kill the process, or the power goes out and your computer shuts off, the next time you launch the software you are given three options, something like this: - Resume editing your last-open project
- Open the last saved copy of your recent project
- Launch without opening anything
I have had excellent success with the "Resume" feature. I have had iClone 5.3 lock up on me a couple times already while key-framing some character animations, and I had to use the Task Manager to kill iClone. That "resume" feature would have been wonderful.
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By Colonel_Klink - 13 Years Ago
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This is a must. Having had Iclone crash several time since I gegan working with it just three weeks ago is very frustrating. At least when Sketchup crashes there is a backup stored so I don't need to start over.
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By Alley - 13 Years Ago
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Like Viking, I use Pinnacle Studio and the Auto Save Feature is a life saver (I've used this software since before this was added and remember the frustrating crashes). However, now if you over tax the program and it crashes, a restart immediately gives you the "Resume" function which works 99.999% of the time. But....it is a feature people have been asking for as long as I can remember and maybe it's not something that is easy to add to this type of software, as we still don't have it. Thanks for the Control "S" tip.
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By animagic - 13 Years Ago
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In my experience, saving in iClone 5 is most faster than in previous versions of iClone, so I'm not too concerned about workflow interruptions. And it should obviously be implemented as an option to accommodate those who prefer not to use it. With IC 5.4 being so awesome :w00t:, our demands are modest...:ermm:
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By colour - 13 Years Ago
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There's a distinction between AutoSave & InstantSave Features in NLE Programs. AutoSave is User selectable, automatically Loading your Current Project when Launching a Program. InstantSave isn't User selectable, automatically taking Snapshots of your Project Edits every few seconds. Pinnacle Studio has both of the above Features. InstantSave was introduced with S10, which was re-programmed to use Avid Liquid Render Engine, which had the InstantSave Feature..
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By Peter (RL) - 13 Years Ago
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Thank you all for your feedback. This is an often requested feature that for technical reasons has yet to be implemented. However I will again pass your requests forward. :)
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By starfugger - 13 Years Ago
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i think an auto-backup system is much safer than autosave. there are a lot of things you could do wrong along the way that you don't want saved, right?
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By Colonel_Klink - 13 Years Ago
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Yes. The auto backup is probably a better implementation. This is what Sketchup does.
Bob
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By animagic - 13 Years Ago
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Autobackup wouldn't really help if you have been adjusting keyframes for a while and then get a crash. The autosave could be numbered to prevent overwriting the original. And you could maybe have both to make everyone happy.
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By justaviking - 13 Years Ago
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At the risk of being "Captain Obvious," I want to remind people we may not all share the same definitions for terms like "autosave" and "auto backup" and so on. I don't know exactly HOW it works, but I want to repeat my recommondation for the behavior of Avid Studio 16. It may be sad this it's necessary, but it's recovery feature came in very useful again. Studio locked up and I had to kill it via the Task Manager. When I relaunched Studio, I was presented with three options, similar to these: - Continue editing <---- This is picks up from the point of the crash
- Open the last-saved copy
- Launch without opening anything
I have had excellent success with the "Continue editing" option. I still save frequently (and do a SaveAs regularly too). But it's nice to not lose that last 10 or 20 minutes of work. It's also comforting to have that second option (same as launching "empty" and then doing an Open command, just more convenient). If whatever caused the crash makes it so you cannot "Continue Editing" you can open from your last Save operation, and presumably it was working fine at that time so that copy of the poject should be safe and uncorrupted. It's like it writes to a temporary file or something, and maybe it's tied into the "undo" buffer or something like that. But that's for the programmers to figure out. It's a great feature, and totally has my vote.
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By starfugger - 13 Years Ago
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animagic (4/9/2013)
Autobackup wouldn't really help if you have been adjusting keyframes for a while and then get a crash. The autosave could be numbered to prevent overwriting the original. And you could maybehave both to make everyone happy.
it's basically the same thing if done in intervals of 1,2,3,4,5 minutes. i dont know if RL can design it in a way that the auto back up is something that happens in the background that the user does not notice at all. this is how things are done in my DAW software (Avid PT). i hardly lose anything when it crashes. also, it doesnt make an endless list of files. it just cycles through 10-25 files, and that's that. when a back up file is too old, it gets overwritten. everything is saved in a folder called back up sessions.
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By starfugger - 13 Years Ago
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justaviking (4/9/2013)
At the risk of being "Captain Obvious," I want to remind people we may not all share the same definitions for terms like "autosave" and "auto backup" and so on. I don't know exactly HOW it works, but I want to repeat my recommondation for the behavior of Avid Studio 16. It may be sad this it's necessary, but it's recovery feature came in very useful again. Studio locked up and I had to kill it via the Task Manager. When I relaunched Studio, I was presented with three options, similar to these:- Continue editing <---- This is picks up from the point of the crash
- Open the last-saved copy
- Launch without opening anything
I have had excellent success with the "Continue editing" option. I still save frequently (and do a SaveAs regularly too). But it's nice to not lose that last 10 or 20 minutes of work. It's also comforting to have that second option (same as launching "empty" and then doing an Open command, just more convenient). If whatever caused the crash makes it so you cannot "Continue Editing" you can open from your last Save operation, and presumably it was working fine at that time so that copy of the poject should be safe and uncorrupted. It's like it writes to a temporary file or something, and maybe it's tied into the "undo" buffer or something like that. But that's for the programmers to figure out. It's a great feature, and totally has my vote.
sounds wonderful. wonder why they don't implement this on Pro Tools. when it crashes i have to manually check the back up folder and select the latest file made.
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By colour - 13 Years Ago
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I've Posted this before: AutoSave is User selectable, as an option. Automatically Saving & Loading a Project when re-Launching the Program. Not an option I advocate, for a number of reasons. InstantSave isn't User Selectable. Automatically taking Snapshots of the Edit Timeline every few seconds, in eg; some NLE & other Programs. Similar to, but not the same as, System Restore that takes Snapshots of your PC's System, when changes to Software / Hardware are made. In eg; Pinnacle Studio NLE Program, The Restore PLP Project Program File Links to the OBJ(ect) Project Sub-folder, automatically Restoring the Project at the last Edit when Studio crashed. Geddit, Gottit? - Good;)
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