Hi, i wanted to know if any of these are able to compete the native renderer out-of-the-box.
Of course they are not.
Notice: i didn't change anything from the default settings after import.
The cameras and lights are always the same as imported, without any engine specific lighting.

CC4 Native:



CC4 IRay:



Omniverse:



UE5:

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Lets discuss this please.

At first, what is that with the eye brows?
I mean, with Iray they look horrible and i see no way to fix it.
Also in Unreal Engine and Omniverse they are far from optimal.
What's happening there?

PS: one could ask the question if they don't test this before they claim to support it

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Which renderer did you use in Omniverse? There are three options.

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Of course i used the path-tracing render option. CC characters are only exported for that (i guessed that by trying, but found the hint in the online resources recently, too).

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Before people get TOO far off track I'd just like to point out that regardless of how good you can make things with iRay, or OV or Blender or UE or any outside render (and you can - I've seen it) the native render is pretty nice.  PLENTY nice for most things.  There are a lot of things "wrong" with it, but what's right is you can make VERY nice images without any trouble at all.

I think that with the exception of stills too many people get hung up on how their stuff looks, and forget things like story telling and acting.  Honestly I've seen a lot of crappy animation (for example, South Park) that is well worth seeing.  OTOH, I've yet to see any "pretty" animation that had crappy storytelling and/or acting that was worth even a minute of my time.

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RAG DOLL COLLISION ANIMATIONS FOR ICLONE 8 & 7
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Ghost Origins

My latest Feature length film created with Iclone.

My Sci- Fi Graphic Novel on Amazon: https://a.co/d/9k3cwoY

My IMDB listing
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There should probably more of a caveat attached to exporting CC characters, but Sales wouldn't like that.

Unfortunately, I couldn't help the poor user who wanted to export to 3DSMax and was disappointed, but I tried to explain that is all about shaders.

Victor has worked a long time to get things working for Blender, but that shows you how much is involved to "align" shaders.

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Quick note on the hair / brows for iRay -- for some reason, in CC4, the Max GI Bounces for the Photoreal Render mode are set by default to 8. Increase that to max (32), and the wonkiness with the eyebrows and the hair edges (esp. fine hair) goes away. As for the glossiness and weird reflections of the light on her face, you have to mess with the materials / light presets and position to fix them, or at least hide them.

Honestly, in CC3, I used to extensively use iRay (mostly because of the cool material options that gave me reflections), but in CC4, I find myself sticking with the native render more and more.

Anyway, just increasing the GI Bounces:



(turning on the "Eliminate Shadow Artifacts" will reduce the sharpness of the shadows' edge on her nose and chin)

I just hope that Reallusion team would fix this issue especially for the UE5 Render

iClone is good for the the Characters and Animation but the environment is very much inferior compared to Unreal. If I can only transfer the environment from Unreal to iClone then I would never use UE5 to render