Peter, thanks for clearing up my confusion, appreciate it.

I'm probably getting ahead of myself here though, as I can't yet even install CA4 due to OSX install problems which are preventing me from obtaining the required version of OSX for CA4.  However, that delay is keeping me focused on tutorials and the manual, which is probably good.  

Thanks heaps for the fast replies too. Its good to know reliable and helpful people are just a few clicks away.

yes I have all of that. My Leap motion controller rocked up this morning so Im all good to go now. Just need the Leap motion profile plug in ..............

If you would like to do mocap by leap motion, you have to prepare the below things:
1. Cartoon Animator 4
2. Motion LIVE 2D
3. Leap Motion Profile
4. Leap Motion SDK 4.0
5. Leap Motion Controller 

will there be any Black friday deals coming up, can you hook a brother up lol

Ok thanks that worked. I have to buy Leap motion profile??????????????? I thought that was part of the mocap suite. Dang

First, you must check your hub update section, check for Leap motion profile updated.
Second check Motion LIVE 2D updated.
This is my serial version.
Cartoon Animator: 4.51
Motion LIVE 2D: 1.21
Leap Motion: 1.01

yes thats the one i installed. I can use the leap motion stand alone but it wont show up in CA4.5 at all

Did you use the leap motion device?
If you use the leap motion device, you must install the leap motion SDK 4.0 on your computer.
Here is the link: 
https://developer.leapmotion.com/releases/leap-motion-orion-410-99fe5-crpgl

Im on windows and cant get the controller to show up in CA4. I have followed the video tutorial but just cant get it to appear on the mocap hand list. no circle to connect the mocap hand