I think whoever came up with the price was drinking with them. At 20$ (12 quid in real money LOL) I won't be looking at these neither :w00t:

 

There was a lot of evil came my way from them, I am glad I took the warning signs serious

Well I just bought 2 avatars from the reallusion evolver site. I'm VERY disappointed with both of them. The two I bought were both military uniforms and both are almost unusable, even with the high-res maps. The uniforms are distorted and "stretched out" and are low quality. It was the uniforms I was interested in. Here are a couple of screen shots to show you what I mean.





Each of these cost 2000 points. Based on what I see, I will not be buying any more.

UPDATE: BTW, both of these looked MUCH better in Avatar Builder while I was building them. It's only after you pay and download that you find out what crap they are. Pretty deceptive.

dfaulknerd

I would use it more if I were able to create a wider set of characters like Doctors, nurses, Police, ect more clothing options and cheaper ... Personally I would like to be paying no more than $10 per character. At that price I think I would be making sets of characters rather than just 1..



I Make My Mates Do The CanCan For The Amusement Of Killer Robots:D

I would like to see something like Spore.

Where you could mix and match upper lower head etc and create a human or unique creature and the option to select skin types not just human but say reptilian all lumpy and bumpy that would go with the character look.

Once you have that unique look then inside iClone we could then scale morph etc that character to create a family of them.

The only downside to this would be the RL Bones perhaps the development team could create a mimic type option where you could apply legs and then say copy the movement and apply to the amount legs in your Character same applying to arms heads etc.

With regards price I personally think they are to expensive for what you get at the moment they are not that different.

With a bit of tweeking in the puppet face panel in iClone you can morph the faces then save that head to create a different face also change body shape again all this makes an unusual character and this is done with what you already have so why pay out more for something similar.

So to get a six legged four armed two headed Creature with a tail maybe charge so much per bodypart used in building up the character.

Duchess Designs Store 

Good evening people..
I would second this.
Also, regarding price, if you had something advanced enough for me to make things like Parlicoots I could lose $100 a time without even blinking because the Character has that value.

 I am also trying to find the cost of the G evolver clone. I also like the cute kid freebie. Both seem to be hard to obtain. $40 wouldn't be a bad price for me. If there were a way to really clone it to make more it would be worth my saving up for. I would be more inclined to pay more if it were in the point system

With the price seemingly being the biggest hurdle right now what would everyone see as fair for the GEvolver models. For example at what price would you change your mind about obtaining new GEvolver avatars?

Your thoughts will be greatly appreciated. :)

                                                                

Peter
Forum Administrator

www.reallusion.com

A couple of years ago Iclone was my introduction to the world of 3d models and virtual movie making. I think at that time I would have found the simplicity of using Evolver a very useful option.

I have not currently been tempted to buy an expensive Evolver generated character. I have sampled the creation process. I too find it disappointing that the results are so very similar to those already achievable with some experience from within Iclone.

What I can't make is squidgy anthropomorphic cartoon object type avatars, design my own alien creature or even multi-limbed fantasy humanoids. I would happily support a commercial site with a step by step on-line "mix and match" construction process which helped me create such additional character types for export into Iclone.

At present a simplified Spore to Iclone pipeline seems a much more attractive option to extend the possibilities than Evolver. An optional 3DXC4 plug-in from RL to allow this would be most welcome.

Geoff.

 

DesertWalker, there's a very detailed page showing the differences between Evolver and iClone characters here:

http://www.reallusion.com/iclone/help/Evolver/index.htm

It answers some of your questions about tweaking body shape, textures (just use Photoshop to add texture detail to the single-piece Evolver texture, seems to be the answer).

For making characters of different ages, it seems the Natural Human Base pack might be the better option at $99. Better than Evolver? I'm not sure if you could get off-the-peg clothes, though.

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I have not had a chance to try it yet. I am not eager to try because the benefits of this service are not clear. I would like to have some clarifications on questions such as:

1) What can this service do that iClone can't? Give a few examples.

For instance, it seems that kids generated in iClone look like mini versions of adults. Kid girls have breasts and curves, and kid boys have chest muscles, strong looking shoulders, biceps, and calves. Does this service make it easier to model characters of different ages?

Does the service produce better looking characters? Higher resolution? Better skin texture?

2) Can existing iClone clothes, hairs, shoes, and accessories easily fit the generated character?

3) Can existing motions be easily applied to the generated characters?