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I read on another post (can't find it now) that Live Face for iClone was only an Apple App because of TrueDepth for Apple, and that Reallusion would release an android app when they had that technology.  Samsung now produces phones with DepthVision, the same technology as Apple -- just branded differently, so I'm wondering if there is a plan/ETA for such an app?  I would be in the market for that.  $1000 for some of the other android apps with face tracking is a bit too much.
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I don't believe that RL ever promised anything to that effect.

From what I understand, the iPhone also takes care of the facial recognition part, so if that is covered by the Android version than there may be a possibility.


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I own Samsung note 9...android has same possibilities as iPhone in this level of pric eof mobile. So my question for Reallusion is same...where is app for Android mobiles?

Checkout the new Face Mocap app for android: 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mx.motion.ar.facemocap 
It is pretty quick and precise on all of android mobiles, you do not need expensive iPhone/iPad
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I own Samsung note 9...android has same possibilities as iPhone in this level of pric eof mobile. So my question for Reallusion is same...where is app for Android mobiles?


Unfortunately it's only some Android phone have the same possibilities as iPhone, the majority of Android phones do not.

With iPhone all iPhone 10/11/12 phones have the required TrueDepth camera. With Android there are many manufacturers of phones with different types of depth cameras. This means that it would likely require many different versions of the plug-in for different makes Android phones. That is a big undertaking.

So while it may happen one day, it isn't quite as simple a development process as you may think.


                                                                

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 I am a former Mac OS user who migrated to windows to use Iclone.
Say what you may about Apple's "closed garden"
however it does make it easier to enforce  uniform Standards,
In this case that standard is not just the true depth camera but the ARK kit
development software that All of the major 3DCC's have embraced for making thier face capture plugins.
There is even one for Daz studio/Genesis 8
If there is not a single standard SDK that supports all ( or Most) high end
Android Phones then few people will risk the investment of trying to 
pick a winner in a crowded market



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If you're able to, do what I do. Forget about liveface for now and purchase faceware. I use my old Huawei P10 android phone with it and it gives pretty decent facial mocap without 'true-depth' and other fancy modern tech stuff 

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Does it work with CC3 characters in Iclone 7?


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Does it work with CC3 characters in Iclone 7?


Yes, 100%

I've basically set up my phone as a Webcam using an app on playstore (will look up the name later), then on faceware where it says to select a camera, I point it to the app. It's really simple, just plug and play



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Here's a quick walk-through of how i do it . Its fairly easy to do.

1.Using google playstore, download and install droidcam app in your android phone
2.On your PC, download and install droidcam windows client from 'dev47apps(dot)com'
3.To run wirelessly, makes sure both your phone and PC are on the same wifi network.
4.Open droidcam on phone. It should give you an IP address and port. Open droidcam PC client. Enter the IP address and port number from phone app into PC client. Make sure 'video' checkbox is marked. Click start
5.Run realtime for iclone. In camera settings, select "Droidcam Source"
6.Close settings, calibrate pose. In iClone motionlive, set up faceware realtime as you normally would. Thats it.


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But what benefits are you getting using Android with Faceware over regular computer camera other than mobility?

The beauty of Apple Live Face is not the hardware, but the software it is using. Faceshift software (which was acquired by Apple and is only available on iPhone) is far more superior than Faceware.
So no matter how you try to connect Android camera (with true depth, or not), it will not surpass the quality of Apple Live Face, when it comes to face muscle movements capture.


Well.. this is what I was told a long time ago, when I was making the same complain about plugin for Android. I'd be glad if someone would prove otherwise.
But then that someone has to have both iPhone and Android at hand, have Faceware and Live Face and do capture comparison.
This test would finally prove one way or another, what actually is making one better than the other, a true depth camera, or the software.






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