thanks all 😻
next sale if I have money I will look into it as I largely load imotion and imotion plus files on my 3DX6 imports then export them to Carrara and UE4 to render anyway
I do the occasional quick animation in iC6 too but in theory the CC3 FBX imports should also import as nonstandard characters in 3DX6 too for that
Carrara is pretty good at loading FBX just blendshapes not supported but I could recreate them with obj morphs and it has its own mimic importer that can use Carrara nonlinear animation of morphs for visemes, not unlike expression editor
Poser is a possibility there too, I import iAvatars into that with blendshapes
iC7 may be eventually on the cards I just cannot afford it all at once.
After all I want Cartoon Animator too and so many other things ...

Well, that's pretty impressive, but still, without having invested in DAZ already, this doesn't motivate to do so. At this point I'm not making animations, I'm making renders for comic projects, and DAZ seems like pretty much just another headache and expense. Good to know that their export to Blender utility is messed up, though.

The dependencies in the Reallusion universe are pretty confusing. Apparently a pieced of hair tagged for iClone 5+ cannot be loaded into CC3 pipeline, only into in iClone. All the export nonsense is terrible, also.  I like a lot of things about CC3, but the business model feels a lot like a scam sometimes- very basic utilities are expensive additional programs, parts of the system don't like each other, and a surcharge for 'export' versions of assets are very nickle-and-dime approaches to extracting money from the end user. It can be quite difficult to tell which version of a product works with software you already bought from RL, or how many more things you will have to buy to make a new product actually perform its expected function. All this makes me reluctant to get further into RL than I already am. I would really encourage the developers to spend some effort fixing problems with what they've already sold us before further multiplying the number of products.
With a bigger budget, no doubt I would care less about this, and I understand the people without a big budget are not the target of most business models, but I will say that RL isn't making it any easier to make my budget bigger, by getting things done.

Simple: CC3 is made to create characters, but you need clothing and hair too; as such, you can use the wealth of figures and morphs, on top of clothing and hair, made by DAZ.
Keep in mind that if you are good at using maya or blender, you do very little work in CC3; since most of your workflow is done in your other 3d app; while for people that are not artists; using pre-made content as starting point help to get where they want to get.
Imagine users coming from Daz studio, where they made a ton of content and variants of the base genesis models... they can import in CC3 all their old work and use the app. That is why for some, it is a big thing.
I can blame CC3 for not being very integrated with Daz Studio to be honest; it would be great to have a "send to CC3" button in DS; so you don't have to use transformer (also you are limited in what you can import; most of what I imported is not something you just import and use; but takes a lot of time to be adapted to CC3)

Hi All, great info, seems like CC3 is great tool for me to replace Daz, good to know it's also easy to export asset to UE4, unity and blender as well.  

Sorry I have to ask my question here, I started a topic with my question but it was ignored

So I haven't started using CC3 yet, but had my eyes on it for a while, I'm a Daz user and currently looking for an alter tool to replace it(the poorly designed animation system and broken IRay render really made me pull hairs everyday)I'm interested in CC3, Icone, headshot and SkinGen, seem like with 4 of these, I can duplicate most of my work in DAZ and then make my game in UE4.  But since 80% of my projects will focus on animated short clips and 3D art, so I hope with these 4 apps, I will able to accomplish that, how big of a scene I can hope to create with I7 5820k, 16G and a RTX 2060? for example, would a scene contain 5 high ploygon & high res texture models in an indoor environment to much for CC3?  and is Iray render plug in less buggy than Daz?  

I would not say that it replace DAZ Studio; (DAZ is the company that make the software DAZ Studio); CC3 is an app that allow you to create characters; in a more focused way; DAZ studio is more of a generic tool for posing, rendering and animating figures made by DAZ (or your own, if you rig them).
They can co-exist in different areas of a pipeline :)
Also CC3 is pretty heavy on hardware usage so you want to work on one character at time probably. CC3 is not a composing app; it is more of a creation tool for characters. For composing scenes or animations, I think there are other tools that are better suited for the job; or you can just move to Blender or Maya.
As far as export, you can export from DAZ in Unity and Unreal too; although you need to have more knowledge about what you are doing. The advantage is that you get a character with all the morphs for the facial expressions that are exposed directly in Unity or Unreal, while exporting from CC3 will give you the single modifiers for expressions, so if you made expressions blendshapes, you won't get those imported sadly, and have to change the single blendshape parameters in the 3d engine.

Thanks for your comment, I normally don't use preset figures made by Daz, I usually morph and customize my own character, that's where I think CC3 can be related.  But I also do tons rigging, animation(Daz's aniMate is very broken) and posing  and then deploy 3-5 characters on a scene and render it with Daz's Iray.  This is also an area I think Icone can fill in.   To Daz's credit, it did allow me to do these tasks without unitizing other tools, but most of its features are broken on so many lvls. That's why I'm considering CC3, Icone and Iray plug in.  I know I can always export them to a heavier and more polished tool such as Maya & blender, but the whole point for me to use Daz and maybe CC3 is that I don't have to create my own skeleton & skin, was never great at that, and then most exported assets from Daz to blender and UE4 always had mesh/texture/morph problems, too much to troubleshoot.
So if CC3 can't handle 3-5 characters & a high poloy background, it probably won't replace Daz. thanks for your input

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I previously used a pipeline consisting of FaceGen>Daz>iClone because I had lots of clothing and hair from Daz which was far superior to CC content. Also, Daz had many more morphs available.
However, with the new updates this year, iClone has made significant progress in the morphs department, as well as in the skin department. iClone still does not have decent beards but those imported from Daz, do not conform to the character's expressions or speech, so no sense importing them from Daz.
I just purchased the CC 4-in-1 bundle for Ultimate digital humans (the new base). I expect to be able to make all my characters inside iClone now.
As far as iRay, iClone has a much better rendering solution in that you can select the items that do not need to be rendered again and render the changed parts of your scene. So, I would not even think of going back to Daz to render. As you note, trying to animate in Daz is a lost cause and iClone beats Daz, no contest.

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I believe improved beards are on the menu later this year.

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