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Has anyone tried the automated AI face creation site called "thispersondoesnotexist"?

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/a278a125-9097-437e-8dbd-4ae6.png

I've been culling through what I think might be the most usuable images, though I have yet to test any of them by way of 'conversion' to 3D.
The 'choices' made were based on images that were:
● Front facing
● Reasonably evenly lit
● Had closed mouths
● Had reasonably 'neutral' expression
● Had minimal (if any) *artifacts* resulting from the 'AI construction'.

This criteria meant that, on average roughly 1 in 70 photos were suitable.
I'll post a few here (or will post as many as anyone would like - I've got just over 300 of them).
I thought that they might be ideal for quick creation of 'extras' in film making ventures, suited to the 'auto mode'.
The resolution of these images is 1024 x 1024 pixels, though I'm not sure whether they'll upload to the forum here at that resolution without degradation.
Guess I'll soon know ...


https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/263bb654-fb52-433e-8f5b-1bc2.jpg

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/c992b2a2-032b-425c-8bbd-1eaf.jpg

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Thanks for the photos. It would be nice if we also had images for the Pro version (4096X4096)

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Yes, true. I guess for 'extras' in a set these might do the trick. (Might need a bit of photoshop) .....
They're 1024 x 1024 - but I've noticed they upload here at 1688 x 905 for some reason .... But that's still close to the original resolution ....
I'd wondered whether that 'upscaling' app would help (forgot the name of it atm).

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Nice find!

BTW: even a photo where the person slightly looks to the side can work well.
I had success by using the perspective tool of my image editor to correct the perspective.
That way i could kind of 'trick' the Headshot AI Wink




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Thanks for the photos. It would be nice if we also had images for the Pro version (4096X4096)


Maybe this site is worth to try: https://generated.photos/faces

EDIT: i just found out they also only offer 1024x1024. Sorry Sad


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Thanks - yes I gave that a try. It's easier and quicker to navigate and view your shots, but for some reason, quite a few of the shots didn't look real to me ... So I ended up coming back to this one (which is a pity, because the site you mentoned was better for viewing a bunch of photos at a time) ....

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As a very general rule you would want at least 2K for your photos for really good quality heads, but I have done famous folks at lower res (1K) and gotten decent results (it helps that we recognize the famous).  The biggest issue with lower than 4K is a "softness" but that can work to its advantage at times, particularly if you are going for a toonier look.

Also, younger people and women in particular look fine at 1K.  It's really the older people (and men) who need those wrinkles and other details to look great.

None of the faces you posted really has those kinds of issues because they are either younger or less detailed men.  But, honestly, I wonder what the point of using these are.  There are two issues on creating custom heads -- you want your own "custom" morph shapes and you want a good skin texture.  You can get a custom morph shape by just using the very many wonderful morphs shipped with HS.  You can get detailed skins by using 2-4K textures from a wide variety of shots on the web.  You can combine these to your hearts desire without using "artificial" people.  IOW, make your own!  HS is really best to emulate a real person, famous or friend.

I did a few of these you supplied but they were... blah.  I had a LOT more fun putting toony morphs on them to make them have pizazz.






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After a long hard think, I just have this to say:
I wanted to tell everyone about these PHOTO ASSETS as a *possible way* of creating Headshot characters for *instant extras* in their productions.
I'd originally thought of calling this thread "300 headshot photos FOR FREE" - but thought it a bit presumptuous given that I didn't 'create' them.
Even so, I DID go to a lot of trouble (around 20 hours) of 'clicking-on', checking/validating the suitability/saving out/ the *cream of the crop*.

I *thought* that those 20 hours of effort might've been of some worth/value to fellow iClonians, so I 'offered up' these assets.

I realize this won't interest everyone. But, in an effort to keep my spirit of 'giving' *alive*, I extend my offer by saying that:
"If anyone would *like* to receive *300 Cream of the crop* 1024 x 1024 resolution photos for use in HEADSHOT (auto-mode) - I'll gladly give them to you" ....

Just 'PM' me (with your e-mail address), - I'll then send you a *drop-box link* so you can download the photos. I *hope* you will 'enjoy' and be productive with these assets ...
256MB download - (307 images)

Kind regards, (& hopefully keeping the spirit of *giving* alive)
~ Steve ~

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I believe the fact that those image being only 1k resolution is not really an issue.
- first because you are not obliged to use the actual image as the final texture (no baking) or you can mix the CC one(s) with it.
- because when you use the so called "micro-normals" it artificially enhance the quality and "details" of the original texture and in most case you don't really need more details.
- because hopefully appearance editor will be back at some point so we can customize further the final textures.
- ultimately you can always photoshop the textures with some brushes to add some sense of details, that's easy to do.
The advantage of such libraries of artificial human faces is that they look like actual humans and are pretty convincing if you manage to get those right through Headshot. Yet, they are "nobody", so no legal issues Smile

But ultimately what counts is that the resulting CC character looks like the person in the picture as a convincing human face (for those after real looking faces of course, not talking about cartoons, caricatures, etc..). Well, may be not exactly like in the picture, but at least "convincing". And you need references for that, and that's where such faces "banks" come in handy.

Something very few peoples realize is that most of the CC Headshot so called "AI stuff" is in the Auto mode, not in the Pro mode. The Pro mode is kind of the "manual mode" and you have to tweak a lot the raw result in order to get something that actually looks like the person (I tend to say that catch the "soul" of the person) from the picture. Lot of posted exemples fail to do that. The exemples done in straight auto mode are much more convincing on that matter (raw result). 

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Thank you Guy for a most thorough and meaningful reply.
I really do appreciate your comments because I perceive a great deal of depth and understanding on your part.
You do *inspire* (rather than criticize) - and that is very refreshing to a person.

I often read and re-read your posts because there is such great depth in your comments (I'm still 'catching-up' - and may actually never reach - your level of understanding - but I try)...


EDIT: Further, I would like to add that "knowledge" (which a lot of forum members do have - (as do you) - is one thing, but to present such knowledge in a way that is "palatable" to the hearer is an *art*.
I do think you possess that art ....

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