Profile Picture

Hair rendering problem

Posted By charly Rama 6 Years Ago
You don't have permission to rate!
1
2

Author
Message
charly Rama
charly Rama
Posted 6 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Distinguished Member

Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: Last Year
Posts: 1.9K, Visits: 17.3K
I think it's all the three parameters, but the most important is disabling SS and full screen rendering.

Yes, that's why he was so sad :(:( :D:D

Guys, for the drop of tear, it's really simple : you take a sphere prop, scale it to ovale, scale it to reduce size, reduce opacity, place it, attach it and it's ok, you can move it with timeline and the kid cries :)


     


TonyDPrime
TonyDPrime
Posted 6 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Distinguished Member

Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: Last Year
Posts: 3.4K, Visits: 12.4K
Charly - did you make the viewport mega-small for the last result?  it looks really good now!
Or, did it just randomly work the second time, because the last 2 looked the viewport size looked the same.  

Anyway - Now we know why he's crying...because of the bug!
charly Rama
charly Rama
Posted 6 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Distinguished Member

Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: Last Year
Posts: 1.9K, Visits: 17.3K
No, I don't own this, this is a really good tool but I don't know much how to use it at iclone, mine is video texture .You can do anything, anything at Iclone with video texture. I'll share it for you guys, you've helped me :)


     


toystorylab
toystorylab
Posted 6 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Distinguished Member

Distinguished Member (17.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (17.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (17.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (17.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (17.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (17.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (17.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (17.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (17.3K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 3 Months Ago
Posts: 4.6K, Visits: 29.9K
Wow, thats an impressive shot...
How did you achieve those tears?
Do you use "Actual Tears" from DAZ for that?
https://www.daz3d.com/actual-tears
Here is what i get with "Actual Tears":

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/0b66a484-3e8d-4870-9916-a649.png

Your result looks more convincing...


Toystorylab on Vimeo : https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/ce44ea78-6984-47d8-9bf4-b783.png    Crassitudes (my "Alter Ego") on Youtube: https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/fcc4df30-b3a8-40a5-a427-0735.png

charly Rama
charly Rama
Posted 6 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Distinguished Member

Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: Last Year
Posts: 1.9K, Visits: 17.3K
Eureka

Thank you so much guys thank you TonyDprime, Justaviking, Animagic, 4u2ges, Dr Nemesis, it was fullscreen render, now it's better, thank you all. I love this community :)

But RL should resolve this  because if this options are there they shouldn't give that kind of issue

This is a work for a professional singer's clip video about misery, sadness and hope. I'll show you a part of video. They love it because they have trouble distinguishing the animation from the real, they think working with all a team (it's only me) but I have a great "team" having you all guys

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/c64a40ec-db23-415c-98b8-90c9.png



     


charly Rama
charly Rama
Posted 6 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Distinguished Member

Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (8.1K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: Last Year
Posts: 1.9K, Visits: 17.3K
Thank you guys for your help..

I've disabled SS, reduced viewport, but it's still so ugly :) maybe  I just won't shoot a close-up view, which would be a shame because it is to show the sadness

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/bf743e6c-9c1f-445a-a410-b0fc.png



     


Dr. Nemesis
Dr. Nemesis
Posted 6 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Distinguished Member

Distinguished Member (3.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (3.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (3.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (3.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (3.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (3.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (3.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (3.1K reputation)Distinguished Member (3.1K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: Last Month
Posts: 258, Visits: 5.4K
Charly try making your viewport as small as you can and then render.
It’ll take considerably longer but in my experience it fixes that problem.

Just try a couple frames first so you don’t waste a ton of time if it doesn’t work.

Edit: 4u2ges beat me by 7 seconds.
4u2ges
4u2ges
Posted 6 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Distinguished Member

Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: Last Month
Posts: 5.3K, Visits: 16.8K
I just made this video to show the reasons for this ugly bug.

Any time you render a close shots of the hair, or any other object with dense opacity maps, you get ugliness when:

1. You render with full screen, or fairly large view-port.
2. You enable Super Sampling

Question: How to overcome those artifacts without disabling SS?
Answer: Render with SMALL view-port. The size of the view-port should be determined experimentally.

Here is an example:

My screen resolution is 2560x1440px and I am rendering 1920x1080px video
Demo video contains three, 3 seconds repeated clips.



Clip1 - Render with "Optimize with Full Screen Render" and SS 3x3 enabled. Result - is horrible hair opacity artifacts.
Clip2 - Render with "Optimize with Full Screen Render" checked , but no SS. Result is better, but artifacts are still there.
Clip3 - Render with SMALL view-port and SS 3x3 enabled. Result - all artifacts are gone.

Here is how view-port looked like when I fired up Export for clip 3:
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/d6fa213c-8173-48c0-b32f-a29f.jpg

Full screen / large view-port size renders have certain advantages such as smoothing jagged edges on some objects with enabled glow, suppressing GI flickering.. etc. And it is faster.
But when it comes to close head shots with certain hair, it is just unacceptable.
I usually render close shots separately from the rest of the video for that reason.





4u2ges
4u2ges
Posted 6 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Distinguished Member

Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)Distinguished Member (22.3K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: Last Month
Posts: 5.3K, Visits: 16.8K
Can you post screenshot of the exact render settings for that second image?




TonyDPrime
TonyDPrime
Posted 6 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Distinguished Member

Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)Distinguished Member (13.4K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: Last Year
Posts: 3.4K, Visits: 12.4K
I can't think of a good reason why iClone is producing render errors which are not showing in viewport.
This may be a specific issue with the character, or maybe, just maybe, a bug.
Whenever I encountered transparency issues they always appear in BOTH viewport and render.

Charly - are you using Super Sampling of any type?  Assuming you are using Final Render, what happens if you instead run the render as Preview?

1
2



Reading This Topic