Hey Charly, I get what you're saying about the 'time' aspect, but I do like your Iray version better than the standard iClone. I'm not saying Iray's necessarily 'worth' all the extra machine time, but it's still a better result imo ....  Nice animation!

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Please be patient with me ..... I don't always 'get it' the first time 'round - not even the 2nd time! :(  - yikes! ... 

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Thank you Steeve. Yeah, Iray render is better. But why I told I liked the result more than Iray, this short part of the scene (without camera movements, without facial animation etc...) is rendered in less than one minute, and with Iray, It'll take hours and hours. But the difference of quality  is not huge but the difference of TIME is enormous :)




     

Yes, I guess it sort of goes something like this (subjectively):

                         Quality:           Time taken:
iClone               50                       x1
Iray                    75                      x20 (or more)

And that's probably being generous about Iray's 'time' ....

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Please be patient with me ..... I don't always 'get it' the first time 'round - not even the 2nd time! :(  - yikes! ... 

● MSI GT72VR Laptop, i7 7700HQ 4-Core 3.8 GHz 16GB RAM; Nvidia 1070, 8GB Vram ● iClone-7.93 ● 3DXChange Pipeline 7.81 ● CC-3 Pipeline 3.44 ● Live Face ● HeadShot ● Brekel Pro-Body ● Popcorn FX ● iRAY ● Kinect V2 ● DaVinci Resolve17 ● Mixcraft 8.1

exactly, and for me the choice is made, I'll tell 60 vs 75 for quality :satisfied:


     

I wish I remembered the render times that I achieved almost 20 years ago when I started with 3D Studio Max 2.5. But I do know it was rendering overnight for a short segment and that was for relatively low resolution.

So I don't really expect super-fast for getting the look I'm after.

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Guys, Steeve is absolutely right, I rendered the same  scene with 40 iterations and the render time passed from 16 hours to 6 hours, and it changes all things, I'll post here one video with all animations, props, water and so , the quality is great (with 40 iterations)


     

Guys, the difference between iclone renders and iray renders can be worlds apart, the problem i see is that you are just letting the auto convert do all the work and while it works great and it is way easier than the Indigo one, you still need to tweak shaders and lights to push to the next level. 
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I hope to be able to do the iray webinar by the end of this month , it will be in two parts. the first one will cover the UI and materials, and the second part will be lights, environment effects, and animation. And if time allow compositing with render passes. 

Stay tuned. 

Cheers,

Stuckon3d



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We are all still searching and there's no doubt, Iray can push the level so high but the problem is : it push the time's level so high too :) that's why "amateurs" like Steeve and me exchange our experiences. Here, we are talking about time, So this webinar will be welcome especially if it reduces the rendering time. 


     

I'll be looking for this glad to hear!

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Master, try to make a short that is quite complex, it is possible that for the next century this finished