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Serious DOF

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Has anyone managed to produce 'production quality' results from iClone with serious (believable) DOF.

I'm not talking 'previz' - rather actual serious 'industry standard' looking results, (which would without a doubt involve exporting layers out of iClone).
Reason being, (unless I can be proved wrong), there is no other way than 'exporting layers' for getting DOF that's consistently believable. (I've been testing on & off for weeks)
And that probably means 'multiple exports' each containing a different 'layer' (ie: foreground/subject/background).
Same for 'moving camera' shots - separate elements recorded, foreground/subject/background.
I'm coming to the conclusion that it's the only serious way to obtain consistently believable DOF.
(I've been 'resisting' this approach like crazy) ..... Tell me if I'm wrong please .......



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Forum Post Serious DOF By sonic7 ( 8 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]sonic7 (5/16/2018)[/b][hr] Has anyone managed to produce... By Famekrafts ( 8 Years Ago )
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Forum Post Sorry I took so long .... I've got an example here of the type of... By sonic7 ( 8 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]sonic7 (5/16/2018)[/b][hr] Sorry I took so long .... I've... By Famekrafts ( 8 Years Ago )
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