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hello, i having problem with big eyes in character creator cause the eyes just dont close 
i having this issue with my manga chars but not too much now, with this cartoon i modeled the problem show more intense
i dont change topology i just get the obj from character creator modeled inside mudbox without subdivisions and back to character creator, he looks ok and good but dont close the eyes tottaly


eyes open 
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/0236b6dc-690c-46b3-a342-b04b.jpg



eyes closedhttps://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/336ac491-cfd5-40bb-8ec0-98f8.jpg







https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/f3b90798-c293-4e89-afc3-b3aa.jpg


nice but cant close eyes


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i try get carefull with the eyelids but dont work  i think we just cant change the eye hole shape, cause i dont see any character make with character creator with totally rounded eyes ( eyes in shape of a perfect circle ) like a cartoon
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You probably need to make a custom morph for such big eyes. You can also set the morphing percent to higher than 100% and see if that makes a difference. The slider only goes to 100%, but you can type a greater than 100 number in the box if you click in it.
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Hi.

I agree with Rampa - a custom morph could be necessary for such big eyes. But you can also try the following workflow first and see if it fixes the problem:

1.) As you can see here, my character also has the problem that the eyelids don't cover the whole eyeball when closing the eyes.
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/1ad10e0f-4844-48ec-a67c-2ade.png

2.) Send the character to iClone and click "Edit in 3DXchange". In 3DXchange open the EXPRESSION EDITOR.
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/7dfb28a4-2957-434c-b96e-75bc.png

3.) Click on the "Muscle" Tab and select the "Eyes Blink" muscle. Find the "Eyes Blink" morph slider.
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/7b5b9cc4-ab43-4d32-a09b-d1fb.png

4.) Set the "Eyes Blink" morph slider value so that the lids cover the eyeballs. In my case a value of "220" works quite well. Press the "Set" button to save the new slider value.
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/07baeba3-5da2-4282-aa27-f8b4.png

Note: You can also combine different sliders to fix issues, e.g. use a negative value for "Eyelids Enlarge" (-150) and a lower value for "Eyes Blink" (150)

5.) When you now check the morph "Eyes Blink" in the morph list of the Expression Editor it seems that the new morph value hasn't been applied. But that's not the case - just send the character back to iClone and test the Eye Blink - it should work properly.
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/8c137a87-a4fe-4902-94f9-db5b.png

https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/d48e3ecc-a2d5-44d3-8371-2c70.png

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Hello,
maybe you could help with my problem too
i have made a girl in Crazy Talk (my biggest mistake i havnt saved it)
http://dl3.joxi.net/drive/2017/01/22/0016/0110/1101934/34/79dde383f9.png
and just now noticed that problem with not properly closing eyes

Tried to fix it with 3dxchange but morph not active :-(
Is there any chance to solve my problem?
http://dl3.joxi.net/drive/2017/01/22/0016/0110/1101934/34/83cde4a1ce.png
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annamironova2007 (1/22/2017)
Hello,
maybe you could help with my problem too
i have made a girl in Crazy Talk (my biggest mistake i havnt saved it)

and just now noticed that problem with not properly closing eyes

Tried to fix it with 3dxchange but morph not active :-(
Is there any chance to solve my problem?


I take it you do have the character in iClone, try sending it to CC from iClone, making a small edit to any slider then save it as a new avatar to iClone, then try again in 3DXchange.  I'm not 100% sure but I think that might work.



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I take it you do have the character in iClone, try sending it to CC from iClone, making a small edit to any slider then save it as a new avatar to iClone, then try again in 3DXchange.  I'm not 100% sure but I think that might work.


to my pity it didnot work (still not activ morph)
the only way i have found by now is to make eyes different in CC
these two sliders help to close eyes
http://dl4.joxi.net/drive/2017/01/23/0016/0110/1101934/34/56e46a45f5.png

but open eyes now looks not exactly like i wanted to
http://dl3.joxi.net/drive/2017/01/23/0016/0110/1101934/34/b0d0442048.png

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@annamironova2007

Seems a little odd to me that those controls are not listed in 3DXchange's Expression module, have you given the avatar any facial animation in iClone?


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For eye blinking issues with big eyed characters, please see the tutorial video below. This should help.

https://youtu.be/J8aoDNZ0QGU?list=PLNV5zSFadPdl8bX7wzxg2MGbhRjUvSt5J&t=1285


                                                                

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Peter (RL) (1/23/2017)
For eye blinking issues with big eyed characters, please see the tutorial video below. This should help.

https://youtu.be/J8aoDNZ0QGU?list=PLNV5zSFadPdl8bX7wzxg2MGbhRjUvSt5J&t=1285

the problem is all those morhps are not active in 3xch
so i just cannt change anything at all  there
http://dl3.joxi.net/drive/2017/01/23/0016/0110/1101934/34/72ad502f7d.png
http://dl4.joxi.net/drive/2017/01/23/0016/0110/1101934/34/7b7bbadb54.png
have you given the avatar any facial animation in iClone?

tried once more with facial animation. No luck

maybe this doesnt work with faces from crazy talk?




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