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Realtime Pokethrough Solution: MORPH TOOL & CREATE CUSTOM MORPH (sliders)

Posted By Bellatrix 9 Years Ago
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Glad to see iClone 7 now having new Morph Creation feature. Can we please have the Move tool in Character Creator in iClone also? It will speed up pokethrough fixes by 900%!!!

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I'm in on this as well, just spent a considerable amount of time designing a character only to find out it has numerous unsolvable poke throughs when animated in IC. Uuuuggh :crazy:

Keep the great ideas / suggestions coming Bellatrix



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A cloth creation and animation system above the existing system will be a nice feature to have in iClone.

And also rather than employing the present complicated cloth system with multiple layering it will be a lot user friendly to allow users to model their own clothes and texture them without the system constraints.


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Your so-called skinwrap is cool, but DYNAMIC skin wrapping is a different matter
I'm CLEARLY proposing a POST-Skinwrapping stage solution!
I'm talking solutions that go WAY BEYOND auto-skinning or weight projection/ transfer!
Read again! :)
Keep it mind
ICloners do not have the luxury of $3500 tool and $1500 plugins
ICloners need multi-purpose ON THE FLY tinkering tools in their limited toolbox


This Morph Tool is just a crude vertex displacement tool, not exactly modeling/sculpt tool
But it can still meet a few frequently-requested secondary animation needs in iClone:
...to deform simple objects (cushion dent, impacted soft metal door etc)
...to animate cartoony pulsating biceps or punched cheek etc
...to melt simple form like cheese, candle into a soft puddle, etc.


In any case
Not everything is "Either Or", we can have BOTH Skinwrap AND Morph Tool/ Brush!

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grabiller (5/26/2016)
This is exactly what I'm talking about in another thread.
Instead of voting for a specific feature, better vote for a "generic" one:
Open iClone to User Customization Through Scripting and SDK

And then you will get your specific features..


Those who stumbled here...
If you wish to understand what Scripting and SDK means to how you use iClone or a day to day basis
check out this discussion here


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This is exactly what I'm talking about in another thread.
Instead of voting for a specific feature, better vote for a "generic" one:
Open iClone to User Customization Through Scripting and SDK

And then you will get your specific features..


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FREQUENT SOFT PHYSICS FAILS prevention alone is a good reason for this.

Morph tool use is not confined to managing pokethroughs on clothed human bodies
No matter how amazing the soft physics...
Many objects in a typical scene don't often drape properly!
Sometimes it is simply not feasible to rebake to fix a few frames!

Poser's have two vertex morph tools (Magnet and Morph brush) due to inevitable need to further adjust
after simulations by Poser's own relatively sophisticated, highly adjustable soft dynamic cloth options
and in spite of their solid Bullet physics and live collision system!

Even Daz Studio with its great auto-fitting, smoothing, skinning and weight edit system
has Deformers to manage pokethroughs from posing a single-pose character!

How could iClone, an animation tool with soft physics, do without a basic vertex moving option?


Here's a screengrab of LightWave's cousin Chronosculpt, showing one of its many useful features



Even with advanced physics simulation, there's always a need to move a few vertices.


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To be honest I'm surprised IClone 6 still doesn't have a basic vertex deform capability. Animation tool without MT tool is like a home garage toolbox without a hammer.

Thanks for the very thorough and well thought out presentation too.
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I didn't comment, but I immediately gave it a vote.
(I only have one vote left, but after my recent "wardrobe malfunction" issues, I had to support this one.)



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I added a comment and gave this my vote in Feedback Tracker.


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