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Another idea to trim long hair is to use vertical scaling. It helped me to change shoulder length hair to something just covering the neck.


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Frankenstrands ;-)

I'm going to try these methods as thus far I feel I've "settled" with this given character's hair.

So, now to try & make it better . . . 

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I like that!

Good idea. I will try this. I know what you mean about the hair cutting not being straightforward. I made a "hair map" by overlaying different primary colors on the texture. That helped give me an idea of what pieces go where.

Thanks for all the help, everyone!
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Hair can also be made up of many pieces. It needn't be a single model. I know Will Veeke has done some modular hair building stuff. 

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You could use one of the women's styles to give him longer hair.

As you've found out, you can use iC5 hair on an iC6 figure.  The only real reason, IMHO, to use the new hair is if you want hair physics on it (and in my ignorance I don't even know if the IC5 hair can have hair physics as well -- never tried).  There's no real easy way even to trim the hair (it isn't straightforward in any way) but you can play around with it a bit.

Here's Mason with Heidi's long hair trimmed a bit (took about two minutes so not the greatest -- then again, I'm no barber):

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Ah, good work! And good to know.

I think my issue was that I was trying to make the hair longer. So I deleted the opacity map to see what the longest possible would be.

Good to know I can at least give my character a different haircut.

Thank you for the tip,
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Ah, good work! And good to know.

I think my issue was that I was trying to make the hair longer. So I deleted the opacity map to see what the longest possible would be.

Good to know I can at least give my character a different haircut.

Thank you for the tip,
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Deleting opacity maps won't change the hair -- you need to mask out what you don't want in the opacity map for it to make a difference.

Here's what I did with Mason's hair (admittedly I'm no barber):

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Yeah, there seems to be an overwhelming trend toward female hair. I spent some time tonight trying to figure out how the whole hair thing works in iClone. I found I can delete all the textures -- diffuse, opacity, bump and the hair only loses detail but is otherwise the same as far as size & shape go. 

A hair-creator would be great!

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More hair options and even a Hair Creator are long-standing requests.

I would like something with morphs, such as DAZ Hampton hair (which is for female hair only, I think) and something similar for male hair.



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