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Peter (RL)
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Peter (RL)
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hcameron90 (6/21/2014) Also I wont be able to get the right shot If i keep the lens at 20mm.Can you not use a slightly longer lens like 80 - 100mm and then just use Zoom (Z) to frame everything accordingly, or are you looking for a specific effect that you can only get with the high lens value?
Peter Forum Administrator www.reallusion.com
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Peter (RL)
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Peter (RL)
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Thanks to Bigboss and Alley for their help in solving the OP's issue. Clearly you are both more eagle eyed than myself as I didn't initially notice the long lens being used. Actually you should be able to get up to 400mm without the effect occurring as long as you don't use Zoom (Z) to zoom out. If you only zoom in the effect doesn't occur or is very minimal. Thanks again.
Peter Forum Administrator www.reallusion.com
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animagic
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animagic
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peppie (6/22/2014) Interesting that no one has reported this problem b4 now.Iclone 5.5 has been out a long time.So I take it no-one uses actors in their scenes until now. Screwing with 5.5 and plugging 6. Go figure.:Whistling:Of course we use actors in our scenes, and unless you use lenses with an extreme focal length, there is nothing out the ordinary to report. I have never felt the need for more than 80mm, which works fine. It is a limitation of CloneCloth as BigBoss has explained; you will encounter the same in iClone 4. Again, it is not problem in 99.999% of the cases and no reason to gloat or feel clever. I bet it wasn't a problem for you either.
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theschemer
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theschemer
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Alley (6/22/2014) Oh dear, I am sorry you had to buy it. Here is the thing, when I rebooted the computer and re-started iClone, that behaviour as in my video was not happening the same. Well, it was happening a little, but nothing like that video. I can't explain it and I wish I had thought to do that sooner.
I am so sorry you had to spend the money.. :crying:
Alley, You have helped me and I am positive many others here so I was just trying to help in a way I could. I have watched many of your videos on clothes and have read your informative posts. I can use the 3D scenes anyhow. I am glad you got it sorted out. :) Thanks, TS
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peppie
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peppie
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Interesting that no one has reported this problem b4 now.Iclone 5.5 has been out a long time.So I take it no-one uses actors in their scenes until now. Screwing with 5.5 and plugging 6. Go figure.:Whistling:
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Alley
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Alley
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Oh dear, I am sorry you had to buy it. Here is the thing, when I rebooted the computer and re-started iClone, that behaviour as in my video was not happening the same. Well, it was happening a little, but nothing like that video. I can't explain it and I wish I had thought to do that sooner. I am so sorry you had to spend the money.. :crying:
Alley
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theschemer
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theschemer
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Alley (6/21/2014) I have 337.88.
Do you have the World Wilderness to see if you have the same issue?No, but I will buy it as I happen to have a coupon. ;) I will report back after I try it. I am buying Volume 1 as that one suits me best. TS Edit: Alley, it looked ok to me but maybe if you give me your output parameters I can test again. I just used MP4 HD720P and it played back fine with the Woods.
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Rampa
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Rampa
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Alley (6/21/2014) Hi Rampa - I tried doing opacity maps for this sort of thing. The issue is that it would have to be so precise - for example with Eddie in that sweater. There are two upper layers. The under shirt layer would need the opacity to cover the under shirt at the exact point where the over sweater met the under sweater. I got it pretty close, but I could not get it 100% as there are no guide lines. You either still allow a sliver of skin to show, or you need it to overlap at least a little - which then does not eliminate the problem.
Even if you get that 100% right - you also have to create an opacity layer for the skin. Because it's not just getting the 2nd layer right, there is still skin show through. So again, you would have to try and create an opacity map on the skin that precisely lines up to the outer edge of the upper cloth.
AND....you would have to provide these multiple opacity maps redesigned for every single different outfit.
Take Vit 3d Cloth with several layers. Imagine trying to get multiple opacity maps for every layer to line up perfectly - it's just not possible without taking hours and hours and risking ruining the final look.
If you keep banging your head against a wall, the simplest solution is not to put padding on the wall but to just stop banging your head. Why not just change up the camera for that particular scene - it's only a problem in this very rare circumstance where you have the camera set for extreme close, but then you zoom out.
As a person who does cloth outfits for Reallusion, Cellygon, Vit 3d, Bigboss and others, I know how difficult it would be to try and create opacity maps for this sort of situation. The reality is that it's just not feasible.I would agree that it's more trouble than it's worth!;) Perhaps there is some other rendering trick that can make underlying polys disappear, that RL could implement. The Z-sorting stuff will often show up with things like edges of hair over glasses, or anywhere else there is multiple layers of transparency (or semi-transparency). So overlapping leaves would have the issue because they use opacity for their shape, being that they are basicaslly just rectangular planes. I first learned about this using Moviestorm, and found a solution (for overlapping opacity). That was to use non-feathered masks, I.E., pure black and white. From this, I try and always make my cutting opacity maps high-res. 1 bit images, and save them as PNG's. JPEGS tend to get fuzzy edges with a bit of gray.
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planetstardragon
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ic6 will be on DX11, we are currently on DX9 - plus the tessellation option and smoothing, it's bound to radically change the way things work now. Just a guess though.
☯🐉 "To define Tao is to defile it" - Lao Tzu
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hcameron90
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Also I wont be able to get the right shot If i keep the lens at 20mm.
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