Any real tutorials on how to use iclone, so far we know (at least to this date) that externals models can't be used, limited facial features so tongues dont exist and if they do they are "the secret" that only the insiders know, if a character wants a big belly he has to have a big butt as well, this app is broken!

If the app is so broken, start using Blender. Use Daz, buy Carrara or Max.

There are tons of useful tutorials out there but nothing replaces good old fashioned button clicks.
Most every one on this site is still learning and learn from each other.

All external models can be used inside iClone, they must be imported via the so called "pipeline" that is 3dxchange.

Iclone uses proprietary file formats to compensate them for the time they have taken to build a consumer animation platform that is USER FRIENDLY compared to the other options available.

Lastly, this isn't your run of the mill COD forum or Facebook! The members on this site do not engage in the typical back and forth negative rhetoric. The users on this forum are very friendly and helpful generally speaking.

Speaking negatively about the program and particularly about the members certainly isn't a useful way of getting help.

3d exchange does not work and even if you do manage to get a model in there you cant export it back, it's not like im asking to do anything fancy these are just the barebones and they dont work and nobody on here has even done that

3dxchange does everything you just got through saying it didn't do. I export to and from iclone ALL THE TIME through 3dxchange. I'm not sure what problem you are having but it works fine for most of us.

That's total BS.

Many people here have done it, including myself.

Originally I was strongly encouraging you to persevere, keep trying, and not to give up.

New recommendation:  Uninstall iClone, since it is clearly not what you were looking for.

Maybe you'll visit us in a couple of months, and tell us all about the other software you find that actually works for you.

But since it works for many, many people here, I don't think the fault lies with iClone.

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iClone 7... Character Creator... Substance Designer/Painter... Blender... Audacity...
Desktop (homebuilt) - Windows 10, Ryzen 9 3900x CPU, GTX 1080 GPU (8GB), 32GB RAM, Asus X570 Pro motherboard, 2TB SSD, terabytes of disk space, dual  monitors.
Laptop - Windows 10, MSI GS63VR STEALTH-252, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 (6GB), 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD

I think you don't even have the software and are a plant by the competition...:crazy:

Reminds me of Test01. Eventually they get tired and go away...:w00t:

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Is that a fact ? Have people deliberately created trouble here before ? I am not very old here on this forum.

I can't say about Test01, but every forum has one from time to time.

Oh sure, many of us have had a bad day, or been frustrated with iClone or other software. But some people would rather complain than actually try any of the suggestions offered by experienced users. That gets tiring.

Do some come with the intention of causing trouble? I don't know.

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iClone 7... Character Creator... Substance Designer/Painter... Blender... Audacity...
Desktop (homebuilt) - Windows 10, Ryzen 9 3900x CPU, GTX 1080 GPU (8GB), 32GB RAM, Asus X570 Pro motherboard, 2TB SSD, terabytes of disk space, dual  monitors.
Laptop - Windows 10, MSI GS63VR STEALTH-252, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 (6GB), 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD

True. ICLONE is evolving constantly. RL's commitment shows. People must be patient. But then we all have been impatient at some point or other. It's understandable, it's just the eagerness to do things at the speed of thought.

They have, but they form a minuscule minority. Most members have a positive atitude, are willing to make the effort to learn, and then you see them contributing answers themselves. Those answers may be cryptic sometimes and involve 3DS Max a bit too much, but there's always something to learn from them, well, mostly...

Now I must admit that we do have heated debates every so often with sparks flying, but then things calm down again and everyone is the best of friends, well, mostly...

And, Peter (RL), our patient moderator, is always there to keep us within bounds when things get too bad...:crazy:

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