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Space Navigator support needed

Posted By Sombrero76 12 Years Ago
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Dear Reallusion Developers!

Almost every 3D software package has built in support for Space Navigator today. The 3D mouse is the perfect tool for moving, rotating camera freely and naturally in space, at six level of freedom. I'm using it with 3DS Max, Rhinoceros, Blender and Photoshop, but there are hundreds of softwares supporting it:

http://www.3dconnexion.com/supported-software/software0.html

Since I've tried it, normal mouse navigation became a real pain. When I first seen iClone, I was happy with the endless possibilities of the program, and all the cool stuffs I ever dreamed about before, but then came the cold shower: it does not support SpaceNav. What?! I didn't believed it.

Camera animation is one of the most problematic area in making professional quality machinimas. Keyframing is not an intuitive way, especially for smooth, precise movements, helicopter-like flyby-s, artistic, fine, variable speed zooms, dollys, crabs. In these areas SpaceNavigator is the ace of aces.

Some places, where the support would be cool in iClone:

- view navigation in editor mode
- realtime camera movement capture (generating keyframes)
- prop movements, rotation
- facial or body expression animation (up to six independent parameters at once!)

For a great implementation check Second Life. That has a nice control panel to customize the influence of each axes, set inertia for contols and function mapping.

From technical viewpoint SpaceNavigator is a normal HID (Human Interface Device) USB device, the readout is the same as any joystick. (I am hobby coder, it took about one hour to write a small camera navigation program in Java...)

I know that the developement schedule of iClone is tight, and it's good to see the quickly widening feature-set, but please re-consider the SpaceNavigator (or general HID) support too, because without this your product stays just a cool toy, not the heaven of machinima makers.

Sorry for my poor english...


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Forum Post Space Navigator support needed By Sombrero76 ( 12 Years Ago )
Forum Post There's nothing wrong with your English! I think you make a fine case... By animagic ( 12 Years Ago )
Forum Post +1 for support Space Navigator / Space Explorer Indeed this would be... By Robertus ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post I totally agree with Sombrero76. Please solve this problem. Maybe it... By aranyka ( 12 Years Ago )
Forum Post It would be great to see support for this. By warlord720 ( 12 Years Ago )
Forum Post This has been requested a few times now but there were then no plans... By Peter (RL) ( 12 Years Ago )
Forum Post It'd make scenes a LOT easier to navigate and set up. That's for sure.... By Dreamcube017 ( 12 Years Ago )
Forum Post Any new input device support that puts it closer to the term: PRO... By Sifr ( 12 Years Ago )
Forum Post 3rd party tools would be cool. I'll say that. I don't like tossing... By Dreamcube017 ( 12 Years Ago )
Forum Post I complained about this very issue a couple of years ago when I first... By JasonSWrench ( 12 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote]I don't like tossing around the P word very often as it gets... By Sifr ( 12 Years Ago )
Forum Post Reallusion: If you are to remain highly relevant and highly referred... By billsteele7 ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post I like INDIE better than PRO... Has you stand out more... Industry... By animagic ( 12 Years Ago )
Forum Post Hey, I know... ( Sarchastic tones ) How about we get the bog basics... By DELETED2 ( 12 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote]Hey, I know... (Sarchastic tones) How about we get the bog... By Sifr ( 12 Years Ago )
Forum Post Yes i agree, i really support Space navigator in iClone. I use it... By brand468 ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post This is the third thread I've seen about this (mine I think being the... By Dreamcube017 ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post But you're missing the point. Its gimmicky and faddy and... looks... By DELETED2 ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post A "space ball" wouldn't replace a mouse anymore than a mouse and... By justaviking ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post So.....If no space navigator, how but a joystick for facial... By Rampa ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Just installed this :D http://atzitznet.no-ip.org/Joy2Mouse3/ ... By Rampa ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post The space navigator has joystick outputs. Maybe this software/hardware... By garyonthenet ( 8 Years Ago )
Forum Post I do tend to agree with Armstrong though. I'm only trying this because... By Rampa ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Found a newer version of Joystick-To-Mouse. Seems to cost $10.00... By Rampa ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Stick with the free one. The newer post is a clunkier version! By Rampa ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks for all your feedback regarding Space Navigator support. I have... By Peter (RL) ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Well, it won't be in iClone 5. Maybe in 6? By animagic ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Still no news on this? By Bellatrix ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post There's no way I'm letting this drop. Space Navigator is a key... By will2power71 ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Apparently the unreal engine is suffering the same lack of support for... By ledlight ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Pardon my french, but that's bubkiss. The thing is, people give... By will2power71 ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]will2power71 (7/23/2015)[/b][hr]I put in a test scene of a... By justaviking ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]will2power71 (7/23/2015)[/b][hr]...The more likely issue is... By ledlight ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]redrum (7/23/2015)[/b][hr] Even a programmer might accept... By will2power71 ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post If this is an important feature request it should be moved to the... By animagic ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Good luck with the request but even Zbrush has no support for one. i... By bluemidget666 ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post I also have a SpaceNavigator for several years and I can not... By brand468 ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Bummer....I recently bought into the iClone family of software and now... By Firepro ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Even though this application has a 3D space in it, and we can navigate... By AverageJoe ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]wizaerd (7/28/2015)[/b][hr] To start bloating it with every... By will2power71 ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Yes, iClone is most certainly a 3D application! The clue to this is... By ledlight ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post iClone3 is a 3D Movie Making application, but it is not a 3D... By AverageJoe ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post We may not need "precise" 3D movements, but we do work in a 3D... By justaviking ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]wizaerd (7/31/2015)[/b][hr]iClone3 is a 3D Movie Making... By will2power71 ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post I was one of those that requested support for SpaceNavigator 5 years... By afterThought ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post if this gets added before the, mixmoves upgrade, curve editor, the... By planetstardragon ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post I realize that other folks have other concerns. I'm not the one who's... By will2power71 ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Just a newbie question: can't you just program the 3Dmouse behaviour... By Matt GH ( 9 Years Ago )
Forum Post Requesting what we'd like has little to do with how RL ultimately... By afterThought ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post absolutely, I personally think it's a great idea - but having... By planetstardragon ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Any plans to make iClone compatible with the Spacemouse? iClone is not... By j-wag ( 9 Years Ago )
Forum Post This has been an ongoing request. Right now, there's no plans publicly... By will2power71 ( 9 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks for that link! I just added my vote... By j-wag ( 9 Years Ago )
Forum Post Also added my vote. The Space Navigators functionality combined with... By Ziggy72 ( 8 Years Ago )



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